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10 hours ago.
by Stillhere
harryanderson
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Thankfully, the anti-science propaganda campaign surrounding man-made climate change seems to have lost some of its effect.

Are you seeing storm clouds on the horizon? Two recent studies suggest that the latest anti-science campaign is following its forerunners--the propaganda campaigns attempting to refute science that tobacco causes cancer, that CFC's caused the hole in the ozone layer, and so on—into oblivion. Global warming denial seems to have climbed to a peak in 2010, and global warming acceptance is now climbing. This bodes well for rational public policy.

 
 

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Kendall78

"So no facts yet huh?"

Nope Tired, you haven't stumbled across any to post on here yet. Try copy/pasting somewhere other than climatedepot.

Posted 95 days ago.

Kendall78

"I was talking about the disposal of the batteries."

We can hope that with the improvements in their ability to store power, they will also be made of materials better suited to the environment as well.

Posted 95 days ago.

Kendall78

"Climate Depot Exclusive: 321-page 'Consensus Buster' Report set to further chill UN Climate Summit in Cancun"

Factless conspiracy theorists.

Posted 95 days ago.

JoeBlow

Sorry, should have been more clear. I was talking about the disposal of the batteries.

Posted 95 days ago.

Kendall78

SPECIAL REPORT: Tired copy/pastes reports from factless websites. Nothing new.

Posted 95 days ago.

Kendall78

Lol...I never claimed to be an expert in the field like you tried and failed to do with an astrophysicist.

Nice try Tired....but try again ;)

Posted 95 days ago.

Kendall78

I would assume that battery technology would improve. Just in the last decade, batteries have improved greatly.

Look at automobile engines of 70 years ago and compare them with today. They are more efficient and powerful for their size.

Of course private business isn't in the market to fix problems either. The Great Depression and issues with workers all revolved around businesses getting to do more with what they want and little oversight.

Posted 95 days ago.

JoeBlow

One thing I see is if all cars were to go electric what will happen in the future with all the batteries? It seems like when the government tries to solve one thing it creates other problems. Look at what happened with the tree huggers wanting plastic bags. Now Calif is trying to ban them or make you pay for them.

Posted 95 days ago.

Kendall78

It's important to note Joe that "private" enterprises do not exist in some kind of vacuum. The govt (whether local or feds) give help, tax breaks and such to businesses.

Posted 95 days ago.

Kendall78

Totally agree with you Harry. There is no reason why specific regions couldn't use their strengths to develop new ways of getting energy.

There shouldn't be a future home in the SW that doesn't have solar panels on the.

Joe, you say they "create a bigger problem" but how exactly? Sometimes the govt has to nudge the population to do what's good for them. Yeah, sometimes the govt oversteps but if you look at our long history...there have been many times it was in out favor.

Posted 95 days ago.

harryanderson

That's the point, Joe Blow. Private enterprise is doing it.

Posted 95 days ago.

JoeBlow

It seems when ever the government is involved in trying to solve problems, they waste the tax payors money and create a bigger problem. If there were a profitable way of doing things, private enterprise would do it.

Posted 95 days ago.

harryanderson

Now here's the kind of small-government solution I like. Several large companies, including Dupont, Coca-Cola, and Kroger have agreed to control how much hydroflourocarbons (HFC) they release into the atmosphere.

HFC's can be 10,000 times as potent a greenhouse gas as CO2.

That's the way it should be done. Individuals and companies stepping up to help solve the problem, instead of denying the problem, which leaves the field open for proponents of big government to impose solutions on us.

And that's not all. Now, in Southern California, developers are building housing tracts with pre-installed solar.

Hooray for these individuals and companies who are leading the way and helping keep government from ordering us around.

Boo to those who deny and ignore the problem, leaving the solutions to big government.

Posted 95 days ago.

Kendall78

"There appears to have been.."

Doesn't he know? No evidence again and just blind guessing.

Tired, your sources have failed. Try again later.

Posted 95 days ago.

Kendall78

"Global warming is the central tenet..."

No evidence just sensationalism.

Posted 95 days ago.

Kendall78

“has actively suppressed research results presented by researchers that do not comply with the dogma of the IPCC.”

No evidence just conspiracy theroies.

Posted 95 days ago.

Kendall78

"I'm not advocating major change.."

No one else is Chicken Little.

Posted 95 days ago.

Kendall78

"his analysis?"

"Analysis- detailed examination of the elements or structure of something, typically as a basis for discussion or interpretation."

Saying basically "no" is not analysis.

Posted 95 days ago.

mythravere

"What high degree have you attained to dismiss his analysis?"Tiredofit

Oh goody. So Tiredofit what qualifications do you have that allow you to dismiss what the climatologists are saying about mans role in climate change?

Posted 95 days ago.

mythravere

"At this stage of the debate (if one would call it that), no one can give you proof you would accept Tired.

That's why we want you to tell us what you would consider proof."

The thing about Tiredofits criteria for proof is that its not set in stone. He's one of those types who likes to move the goal posts.

Like I said. Any proof we provide will be denied by Tiredofit even if it is correct and truthful.

Thats his games plan. His whole point in this debate is to deny everything we say.

Posted 95 days ago.
 
 
 
 

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