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by Stillhere
harryanderson
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Thankfully, the anti-science propaganda campaign surrounding man-made climate change seems to have lost some of its effect.

Are you seeing storm clouds on the horizon? Two recent studies suggest that the latest anti-science campaign is following its forerunners--the propaganda campaigns attempting to refute science that tobacco causes cancer, that CFC's caused the hole in the ozone layer, and so on—into oblivion. Global warming denial seems to have climbed to a peak in 2010, and global warming acceptance is now climbing. This bodes well for rational public policy.

 
 

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Thatsabsurd

"Let's pause for a moment and ask you this...what is causing this supposed "plateau" you claim exists? It can't be due to the Sun because the Sun is actually putting out less energy currently than it has in recent time."

This is exactly why its so easy to fool imbeciles with junk science

the sun is putting out less energy. are you that stupid. Where did that come from one of your "self proclaimed" Climate scientists?

Posted 98 days ago.

Kendall78

@Myth- Tired is a hypocrite.

He won't believe some scientists and uses the excuse that they have an agenda and are govt paid.

But then he will support a faulty notion like the other planets getting warmer from who? Oh, yeah...scientists. Of course these very few scientists (from articles many many years old) never tried to say that what happens on other planets are comparable to Earth.

I've tried to get Tired to tell us why smaller, atmosphereless, oceanless places like Mars or Pluto is comparable to Earth and Tired runs away.

Posted 98 days ago.

Kendall78

"There has been a plateau in warming over the last 17 years."

And that is factually untrue. Remember while you are posting your angry twitter-like posts that "global" warming means more than just one little area.

Let's pause for a moment and ask you this...what is causing this supposed "plateau" you claim exists? It can't be due to the Sun because the Sun is actually putting out less energy currently than it has in recent time.

Posted 98 days ago.

Kendall78

"No warming in nearly two decades despite CO2 levels rising, NO cause and effect"

Sorry to tell you this Tired but no one has said that Global Warming is being caused only because of CO2.

"and other planets have seen warming in the recent past."

Show us a scientist that isn't getting govt funding that says this. If you won't believe in the people at NASA when they support man made global warming theory, why do you believe in these other scientists?

Posted 98 days ago.

Kendall78

"No warming in nearly two decades despite CO2 levels rising, NO cause and effect"

I'm sorry to tell you this Tired but no one has said that CO2

Posted 98 days ago.

mythravere

Whew nearly missed this one.

" There is a small group of suppsosed scientist that pretend to speak for all fo science "

Um sorry but the profession of a scientist is broken up into a lot of different specialized and focused groupings dedicated to a myriad of topics.

I don't think climate scientists are presuming to be speaking for all scientists just the subject they specialize in.

Besides why distrust climate scientists but yet trust astronomers(the scientists that study planets,solar systems,stars etc)?

Oh silly me I know. Climate scientists aren't supportive of the positions you hold.More importantly they are in conflict with your parties politicians seeing as how the vast majority of conservative politicians have a stake in carbon based energy which is what is causing climate change according to climate scientists.

The astronomers I guess pose no threat to the oil barons.

Posted 99 days ago.

mythravere

Soooooooooooooooo?

Which is it? Is the earth truthfully not warming or is the earth warming due to the influence of the sun?

Now this is where you need to put on your good debater pants and deliver unto me the information that I am seeking to clarify my understanding of your position.

Posted 99 days ago.

mythravere

Going further with that logic we come to this gem.

There's been no warming. OK!

But yet the earth has been for awhile now moving out of an ice age(an interglacial period if you will)which you agree with.

For that to happen there has to be warming. Which you said isn't happening. I mean its well documented the recession of glaciers this past century so we know the earth is warming.

Either you are stupid or you are a troll.

I'm hoping you're stupid. Because if you are spending this much time just trolling with this much inconsistent consistency then you must have a supremely boring life.

Posted 99 days ago.

mythravere

Ok there has been no warming on this planet? But you then say other planets of been shown to be warming in the recent past.

But didn't you say that the reason behind the other planets warming was due to the sun ergo thats the reason the Earth is warming? Which you just said wasn't happening.

I am pretty sure you did.

LOL!

Posted 99 days ago.

mythravere

"Yeah myth I am stupid but can perform differential calculus and any physics problem you wish."

Its good that you can do that. But it does beg the question as to why you are saying the things that you are about mans role in climate change when have the knowledge that will show you that man can indeed causes changes in the climate.

So in other words the only reason you take the position that you do is because mans role in climate change goes against some of your close held beliefs.

Its not the facts that are wrong..its that you refuse to admit they are right.

Posted 99 days ago.

mythravere

"All your silly boyish keyboard heroics"

I do believe this is a case of projection right there.

Sorry Tiredofit but it aint we who be acting like a child.

Posted 99 days ago.

mythravere

Oh and Tiredofit for one to participate in a decent debate(you lamented the fact that there is no decent debate on this site)when one party requests information or clarification from the other party if the party that has something requested of it and is truthfully interested in decent debate then the honest thing to do is to provide that information.

Failing to do so shows pretty well that having a decent debate isn't on your agenda.

Posted 99 days ago.

mythravere

Tiredofit just keeps giving me more and more proof that his only point in this "debate" is that of a troll.

At least I hope thats what your angle is. Otherwise you are horrendously stupid and ignorant...willfully so at that.

Posted 99 days ago.

Kendall78

Typical blabber from Tired. Maybe he will actually defend or support one of his inane theories.

Posted 100 days ago.

Kendall78

I have made no false assumptions. After you first defend your position on how Earth's climate is comparable to Mars and Pluto...you can cite where I made any.

Otherwise, you are just typing irrelevant nonsense..again.

Posted 101 days ago.

Kendall78

"would reject inconvenient information"

Perhaps you could cite where I have rejected any information. I bet you can't. ;)

I have acknowledged that there is data. Unlike some people I have also acknowledged that the data is old, sparse and lacking relevance to what is happening on Earth.

Perhaps instead of creating false assumptions about others, you could tell us why you think that the data about Mars and Pluto should be trusted but the data gathered about Earth, from Earth, cannot be trusted?

Posted 101 days ago.

Kendall78

And of course it is baffling why a person doesn't believe in the data NASA and govt scientists give about Earth's climate while accepting fragmentary data about Mars or Pluto.

Posted 101 days ago.

Kendall78

Ignoring Tired's attempts at humor and not intellect, here is why it is foolish to try to compare Earth with Mars or Pluto. Tired is more than allowed to participate when his maturity sets in.

1. Earth has oceans where neither Mars or Pluto does not. It's painfully obvious that oceans does effect how our planet obsorbs heat.

2. Earth recieves more of the Sun's energy than Mars or Pluto.

3. The knoweldge of about Earth's climate is vast, while we know so little if virually nothing about Mars and Pluto.

Posted 101 days ago.

Kendall78

You poor simpleton, you won't answer because you know comparing our planet with Mars and dwarf planet Pluto is foolish and stupid.

Then you try to deflect with your attempts at some out of date left handed insult.

It all comes down to the fact you are a disingenuous and intellectually inept person. You'll ignore and insult Govt agencies and scientists when they say things you do not like but when they give you even a inkling of something you like...then you jump on board the band wagon whooping and hollering like a hillbilly.

And before you cry and whine about me insulting you or whatever, I'm not at all. Everything I have described you as is accurate to how you have portrayed yourself on here. So please don't play the wounded troll...you are not very good at it.

Posted 101 days ago.

Kendall78

Good to hear that you can keep up, then it won't be a bother for you to answer why you think the Earth and its climate is comparable to Mars and Pluto.

And why do you trust the govt to tell you what the climate is on Mars and Pluto but not on this planet?

Now show us you understand.

Posted 101 days ago.
 
 
 
 

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