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19 minutes ago.
by Ohwiseone
harryanderson
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Thankfully, the anti-science propaganda campaign surrounding man-made climate change seems to have lost some of its effect.

Are you seeing storm clouds on the horizon? Two recent studies suggest that the latest anti-science campaign is following its forerunners--the propaganda campaigns attempting to refute science that tobacco causes cancer, that CFC's caused the hole in the ozone layer, and so on—into oblivion. Global warming denial seems to have climbed to a peak in 2010, and global warming acceptance is now climbing. This bodes well for rational public policy.

 
 

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harryanderson

I agree with most of Tiredofit's post, except the part about funding more research. If the models are uncertain, we should fund research to increase the reliability of the models.

Tiredofit seems to have concluded there is no danger. However, scientists have provided ample evidence to show there may be danger. Let's do more research to find out for sure.

Posted 211 days ago.

Tiredofit

Dyson is not a “global-warming heretic”; he does not dispute the science. He simply says, and rightfully so, that the science is both uncertain and very much exaggerated. It is no secret that a lot of climate-change research is subject to opinion, that climate models sometimes disagree even on the signs of the future changes (e.g. drier vs. wetter future climate). The problem is, only sensational exaggeration makes the kind of story that will get politicians’ — and readers’ — attention. So, yes, climate scientists might exaggerate, but in today’s world, this is the only way to assure any political action and thus more federal financing to reduce the scientific uncertainty.

MONIKA KOPACZ Applied Mathematics and Atmospheric Sciences Harvard University Cambridge, Mass.

BTW she is now with NAOA

Posted 211 days ago.

mythravere

Imbecile! LOL!

Always cracks me up.

Posted 212 days ago.

Kendall78

@Thats- do you have a citation for that info you just gave?

Posted 212 days ago.

Thatsabsurd

Straight from the imbecile Climate Scientistees mouths' They will not include the polar temperatures in their ongoing scam as it will alter their data differently than the outcomes desired"

Globewarmers have to be the most ridiculous humans alive imbecile is too good of a word for these idiots

Posted 212 days ago.

mythravere

Iceberg over Ohio? You gotta be kidding me?

Definition: a large floating mass of ice detached from a glacier or ice sheet and carried out to sea.

Glacier Tiredofit glacier.

Posted 212 days ago.

Kendall78

Proof has been offered to support the claim that current global warming is due to in part by man.

Your offering up the MWP isn't exactly proof because you haven't said what caused it to happen and how that connects to what is going on now.

Posted 212 days ago.

Kendall78

You obviously have no concept what it means to carry a burden of proof.

The statement that; The overall temperature of the Earth is rising is agreed by all of us right?

If so, then two positive & generalized claims have been made.

1) Current Global Warming is due in part or fully by the actions of mankind.

2) Current Global Warming is due to natural fluctuations.

Both are positive claims and the burden of proving them rides on those that make them. So you are incorrect, you also have the burden to prove your position.

Posted 212 days ago.

Tiredofit

THe burden of proof is on YOU to show its different than historic warming that you chose to ignore...... WEll,,,,,,PROOF?????

Posted 212 days ago.

Kendall78

Seven responses and not a answer in there anywhere...just blabber. Well, actually to break it down we have:

3 comments about icebergs in Ohio

1 comment about the medieval warming period with no connection given to the here and now beyond wishful thinking. Ignoring also that the current global temps are higher than the MWP was.

4 accusations of ties with organizations I have no connection to

So in the end we have Tired behaving like other famous denier groups who throw accusations, deny facts and try to connect issues that are not related.

Posted 212 days ago.

Tiredofit

Yep, you are in good company with no proof wathsoever

Posted 212 days ago.

Tiredofit

You have the UN or yes the UN

Posted 212 days ago.

Tiredofit

You have ALGORE who has made million from morons.

Posted 212 days ago.

Tiredofit

You have Socialist organization world wide on your side, Unions and Eviromarxists, hippies and occupy types congrats

Posted 212 days ago.

Tiredofit

All you have is faith that you are correct, which is not much to go on at all. I have history on my side, I have medieval warming and the icebergs that used to plod along ohio where are they? did the SUVs kill them??? what do you have to go on , a few well paid supposed scientists that cannot PROVE nor SAY FOR ABSOLUTE SURE that CO2 causes anything.

Posted 212 days ago.

Tiredofit

How did that iceberg disappear from Ohio???????

Posted 212 days ago.

Tiredofit

Can you prove that the warming is not a natural occurrence like the iceberg over Ohio?????

Posted 212 days ago.

Kendall78

And the non-scientific comments begin to flow, thank you for not disappointing Tired.

So what is that now? Over a hundred non-answers to very basic scientific questions. The end result is that you don't have a clue what you are talking about and never did. All you have is faith that you are correct, which is not much to go on at all.

Yes or no, can you show that the rise in overall global temperatures can be attributed to only natural causes?

Posted 212 days ago.

Tiredofit

Tired, you say that one cannot reproduce the experiment of man made global warming but how could you know that this warming is due to nature? You can't recreate an experiment to show it's all natural can you? WATCH ME MAKE A GLACIER DISAPPEAR ACROSS OHIO........POOF THERE IS YOUR PROOF

Posted 212 days ago.

Kendall78

Tired, you say that one cannot reproduce the experiment of man made global warming but how could you know that this warming is due to nature? You can't recreate an experiment to show it's all natural can you?

Posted 212 days ago.
 
 
 
 

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