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27 minutes ago.
by Tiredofit
harryanderson
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Thankfully, the anti-science propaganda campaign surrounding man-made climate change seems to have lost some of its effect.

Are you seeing storm clouds on the horizon? Two recent studies suggest that the latest anti-science campaign is following its forerunners--the propaganda campaigns attempting to refute science that tobacco causes cancer, that CFC's caused the hole in the ozone layer, and so on—into oblivion. Global warming denial seems to have climbed to a peak in 2010, and global warming acceptance is now climbing. This bodes well for rational public policy.

 
 

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Tiredofit

Manns hockey stick HAS been shown to be faulty

Posted 17 days ago.

harryanderson

"OK but has it been proven by scientific methods?"

Read the 43 papers and take it up with their authors, if you like.

Posted 17 days ago.

Tiredofit

Are the proxy methods the same ones used to produce the models that failed to come to fruition>?

Posted 17 days ago.

harryanderson

I meant that you cited strong evidence the hockey stick graph was ACCURATE, since it is "supported by more than two dozen reconstructions, using various statistical methods and combinations of proxy records," as you said.

Posted 17 days ago.

Tiredofit

OK but has it been proven by scientific methods?

Posted 17 days ago.

Tiredofit

Because you think MOST people agree with you is that the same as the proof I asked for>?

Posted 17 days ago.

harryanderson

You ask if the hockey stick graph is inaccurate, but you already cited strong evidence that it is.

As you quoted, the hockey stick graph "was supported by more than two dozen reconstructions, using various statistical methods and combinations of proxy records."

Posted 17 days ago.

Tiredofit

How is that proof of Man made climate change???

Posted 17 days ago.

harryanderson

Since 2/3 of my fellow Republicans and Republican-leaning independents agree it's beneficial to reduce our fossil fuel use, I've moved on to figuring out how best to do that.

Posted 17 days ago.

Tiredofit

cited the following reconstructions supporting its conclusion that the 1990s was likely to have been the warmest Northern Hemisphere decade for 1,000 years:[2

IS LIKELY THE SAME AS PROOF

Posted 17 days ago.

Tiredofit

Sorry if I ask questions but this IS your source

Posted 17 days ago.

Tiredofit

I am QUOTING YOUR SOURCE

Posted 17 days ago.

Tiredofit

Has the HOCKEY STICK been show to be inaccurate?

Posted 17 days ago.

Tiredofit

Quantitative reconstructions have consistently shown earlier temperatures below the temperature levels reached in the late 20th century. This pattern as seen in Mann, Bradley & Hughes 1999 was dubbed the hockey stick graph, and as of 2010 this broad conclusion was supported by more than two dozen reconstructions, using various statistical methods and combinations of proxy records, with variations in how flat the pre-20th century "shaft" appears.[1]

Posted 17 days ago.

harryanderson

I knew you'd reject the 43 papers without looking at them.

Posted 17 days ago.

Tiredofit

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The instrumental temperature record only covers the last 150 years at a hemispheric or global scale, and reconstructions of earlier periods are based on climate proxies

HMMM climate proxies are those factual?

Posted 17 days ago.

harryanderson

I'm on to solutions.

Posted 17 days ago.

Tiredofit

WIKIPEDIA? is that not open to anyone to author???

Posted 17 days ago.

Tiredofit

OK 2000 years is one thing but how about 12000

Posted 17 days ago.

Tiredofit

Boy, go to bed, you had your chance.

Posted 17 days ago.
 
 
 
 

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