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4 hours ago.
by Stillhere
harryanderson
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Thankfully, the anti-science propaganda campaign surrounding man-made climate change seems to have lost some of its effect.

Are you seeing storm clouds on the horizon? Two recent studies suggest that the latest anti-science campaign is following its forerunners--the propaganda campaigns attempting to refute science that tobacco causes cancer, that CFC's caused the hole in the ozone layer, and so on—into oblivion. Global warming denial seems to have climbed to a peak in 2010, and global warming acceptance is now climbing. This bodes well for rational public policy.

 
 

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mythravere

But an interesting aside to all of this is that quite a few big players in the energy industry that took issue with climate change no longer do so. The see it for the problem it is. And are investing in alternative energy sources or research into alternatives.

Also there is no questioning the issue when our very own military sees climate change as a potential threat to national security.

So while some people feel there is a "debate" on this issue others aren't letting their judgement be clouded the "questions" that surround this issue and are actively planning to deal with problems that it will bring us.

Posted 52 days ago.

mythravere

"It seems many of these scientists that are studying global warming are paid from grants from the government. The more you find the more money you make."

If profit was the singular motivation for scientific discovery then we'd find ourselves lacking in quite a few modern amenities.

But I must say if profit/funding is a concern then one must also question those who have taken issue with climate change.

A bunch of the various companies,groups and individuals that have taken issue with this topic also have a vested interest in industries that are threatened by the response to man made climate change.

So they use their deep pockets to fight the issue by casting doubt that people like tiredofit latch onto.

And that leads to the discussion on this issue being muddied up and politicized.

Oh and these entities I am talking about pretty much have a huge swath of conservative government officials in their pocket. And the puppets say what the puppeteer wants them to.

Posted 52 days ago.

Kendall78

"The more you find the more money you make."

That's the kind of thinking that got the vaccination/autism conspiracy stuff going but one should get all the facts before jumping to conclusions.

If the scientists are fudging data for more grants, then it should be easy to prove. And of course it takes more than a few scientists to discredit an entire scientific premise.

Posted 52 days ago.

JoeBlow

It seems many of these scientists that are studying global warming are paid from grants from the government. The more you find the more money you make. It seems like when you hire consultants to come in. They always find changes for you to make, and then in a few years it is changed back to what you were doing in the first place.

Posted 52 days ago.

Kendall78

"climate scientists might exaggerate"

climate scientists might sprout wings

climate scientists might become deniers

climate scientists might grow two heads

climate scientists might dye their hair green

Wow...so many mights and they are all equal without proof Tired. So if you are claiming they all exaggerate, provide evidence to this claim of yours.

Posted 52 days ago.

Kendall78

"STOPPED heating the earth and just decided to heat the ocean"

The oceans are part of the Earth...duh.

Posted 52 days ago.

Kendall78

Actually...I see nothing but opinion in the copy/paste you put up.

Now if you would put the actually citation from Hadley, NASA's GISS, UAH and RSS...then you might have something. For all we know, that cite you copy/pasted from could be lying about what those places said.

Posted 52 days ago.

mythravere

I pay federal tax. Pretty lame attempt at slinging mud though.

Posted 52 days ago.

mythravere

If I remember right they found water temperature increases as far down as 900ft.

Posted 52 days ago.

Kendall78

"All four major global temperature tracking outlets.."

Well..let's see this latest...wait...2008? How is this up to date?

Tired...try researching.

Posted 52 days ago.

mythravere

What I was talking about was in the news in like the last week or two.

Posted 52 days ago.

mythravere

"You want to give the Socialist Govt more control over your lives,"

The "socialist" government is a figment of your fear addled mind.

Posted 52 days ago.

mythravere

"All four major global temperature tracking outlets (Hadley, NASA's GISS, UAH, RSS) have released updated data. All show that over the past year, global temperatures have dropped precipitously."

Yes and?

I already knew about this. The truth is the heat may be in the ocean. They are finding the warming of the ocean in certain areas deeper than normal. The ocean is acting like a heatsink.

Which is bad because too much warming in the ocean could upset currents and lead to the release of methane hydrates.

Posted 52 days ago.

Kendall78

"The warming trend has STOPPED"

Actually that's not true. It's only true if you ignore the oceans and why would any idiot do that considering how vast they are.

Posted 52 days ago.

mythravere

You trying to mooch off of our hard earned knowledge gleaned from paying attention and researching the facts?

LOL! If I give it too you all you gonna do is go buy yo seff an Obama phone and stay up all night talking and axing ur girlfriends questyuns!

Fo reel!

Posted 52 days ago.

mythravere

Go find the proof yourself Tiredofit.

Whataya wait'n for a handout?

HAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!

God the irony that Tiredofit is asking for us to GIVE him the proof!

Oh how very "liberal" of you Tiredofit.

Sorry from here on out. If you want it you get it for yourself.

Aaaah talk about an inversion of roles here. LOL!

Posted 52 days ago.

mythravere

"myth what was your favorite provable demonstrable fact from.the previous pages"

Favorite? What? You can't pick favorites!

Posted 52 days ago.

mythravere

Well I've done a bit of digging on the story about global cooling being "announced" back in the 70's.

Pretty much what it boiled down to is that scientists didn't say thats how things were headed....the media blew that story out of proportion.

Look up the Milankovitch Cycles.

Aaaah! (squints eyes and looks around) Milankovitch? Thats Russian!

Proof of a Marxist or whatever conspiracy!(deadpan)

Posted 52 days ago.

Ohwiseone

Your opinion was predetermined before this debate even began and it can not be swayed. ~~~~~~~Nevertheless, there is a strong, credible body of evidence, based on multiple lines of research, documenting that climate is changing and that these changes are in large part caused by human activities. While much remains to be learned, the core phenomenon, scientific questions, and hypotheses have been examined thoroughly and have stood firm in the face of serious scientific debate and careful evaluation of alternative explanations.”

— United States National Research Council, Advancing the Science of Climate Change

Posted 52 days ago.

Kendall78

Actually, wasn't those theories from the 70's I thought?

As I said, it's best to look at the big picture and not the smaller scale. It benefits the opposition to look at the smaller scale time frames because they can claim a plateau when their isn't one.

Posted 52 days ago.
 
 
 
 

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