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4 hours ago.
by harryanderson
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Thankfully, the anti-science propaganda campaign surrounding man-made climate change seems to have lost some of its effect.

Are you seeing storm clouds on the horizon? Two recent studies suggest that the latest anti-science campaign is following its forerunners--the propaganda campaigns attempting to refute science that tobacco causes cancer, that CFC's caused the hole in the ozone layer, and so on—into oblivion. Global warming denial seems to have climbed to a peak in 2010, and global warming acceptance is now climbing. This bodes well for rational public policy.

 
 

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harryanderson

I meant that you cited strong evidence the hockey stick graph was ACCURATE, since it is "supported by more than two dozen reconstructions, using various statistical methods and combinations of proxy records," as you said.

Posted 16 days ago.

Tiredofit

OK but has it been proven by scientific methods?

Posted 16 days ago.

Tiredofit

Because you think MOST people agree with you is that the same as the proof I asked for>?

Posted 16 days ago.

harryanderson

You ask if the hockey stick graph is inaccurate, but you already cited strong evidence that it is.

As you quoted, the hockey stick graph "was supported by more than two dozen reconstructions, using various statistical methods and combinations of proxy records."

Posted 16 days ago.

Tiredofit

How is that proof of Man made climate change???

Posted 16 days ago.

harryanderson

Since 2/3 of my fellow Republicans and Republican-leaning independents agree it's beneficial to reduce our fossil fuel use, I've moved on to figuring out how best to do that.

Posted 16 days ago.

Tiredofit

cited the following reconstructions supporting its conclusion that the 1990s was likely to have been the warmest Northern Hemisphere decade for 1,000 years:[2

IS LIKELY THE SAME AS PROOF

Posted 16 days ago.

Tiredofit

Sorry if I ask questions but this IS your source

Posted 16 days ago.

Tiredofit

I am QUOTING YOUR SOURCE

Posted 16 days ago.

Tiredofit

Has the HOCKEY STICK been show to be inaccurate?

Posted 16 days ago.

Tiredofit

Quantitative reconstructions have consistently shown earlier temperatures below the temperature levels reached in the late 20th century. This pattern as seen in Mann, Bradley & Hughes 1999 was dubbed the hockey stick graph, and as of 2010 this broad conclusion was supported by more than two dozen reconstructions, using various statistical methods and combinations of proxy records, with variations in how flat the pre-20th century "shaft" appears.[1]

Posted 16 days ago.

harryanderson

I knew you'd reject the 43 papers without looking at them.

Posted 16 days ago.

Tiredofit

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The instrumental temperature record only covers the last 150 years at a hemispheric or global scale, and reconstructions of earlier periods are based on climate proxies

HMMM climate proxies are those factual?

Posted 16 days ago.

harryanderson

I'm on to solutions.

Posted 16 days ago.

Tiredofit

WIKIPEDIA? is that not open to anyone to author???

Posted 16 days ago.

Tiredofit

OK 2000 years is one thing but how about 12000

Posted 16 days ago.

Tiredofit

Boy, go to bed, you had your chance.

Posted 16 days ago.

harryanderson

"If the rate of warming is unprecedented as you state, that would be some level of proof that something is different about this warming trend, Please show where this data is"

Here's a list of 43 scientific papers showing the recent warming is unprecedented in the last 2000 years.

en.wikipedia****/wiki/List_of_large-scale_temperature_reconstructions_of_the_last_2,000_years

I know you won't bother to look at this scientific data, since you've said it's not a scientific debate.

Posted 16 days ago.

Kendall78

"how was this data gathered from 12000 years ago"

It must have came from the same place that told you what didn't happen back then..haha.

Posted 16 days ago.

Tiredofit

how was this data gathered from 12000 years ago

Posted 16 days ago.
 
 
 
 

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