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43 minutes ago.
by Stillhere
harryanderson
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Thankfully, the anti-science propaganda campaign surrounding man-made climate change seems to have lost some of its effect.

Are you seeing storm clouds on the horizon? Two recent studies suggest that the latest anti-science campaign is following its forerunners--the propaganda campaigns attempting to refute science that tobacco causes cancer, that CFC's caused the hole in the ozone layer, and so on—into oblivion. Global warming denial seems to have climbed to a peak in 2010, and global warming acceptance is now climbing. This bodes well for rational public policy.

 
 

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mythravere

Looks like someone is in bury the other comments mode.

Posted 85 days ago.

mythravere

"In perhaps a further contrary development for the climate change adherents, it’s been reported that the polar ice cap is actually expanding rather than contracting: “"

There is a nice little switcheroo in this post by Tiredofit. Well copy pasted by Tiredofit.

What is not mentioned is that Arctic Sea ice(northern ice cap) is getting thinner. Even though it has expanded rapidly in the past few years the ice itself is not as thick.

But then they mention that a ship got stuck in the sea ice down in Antarctica. Which hasn't seen nearly as much melt as the Arctic in the north. In some cases the ice is actually increasing down there.

Context is everything.

Posted 85 days ago.

harryanderson

And who are those climate scientists who claim CO2 isn't a greenhouse gas?

All you've put up is a bunch of smoke you copied and pasted.

Posted 85 days ago.

mythravere

Thats all good and well buuuuuuuuut....just like the facts that we put on the table that you say are false even when they are truthful and correct..like a coin there is a flipside to who you cite as proof of your position.

Its only sources that support your position.

And bad sources at that.

Posted 85 days ago.

harryanderson

Maybe you better go back to getting your climate science information from the guy who wrote "As We Sodomize America."

What was his name again? Where did he get his degree in climate science?

Posted 85 days ago.

harryanderson

Thanks for pointing out another two climate scientists who agree.

And I see the "scientific debate" has again been "of enormous frustration" to you, so you've moved on to quoting Anthony Watts. From where did he get his degree again?

Posted 85 days ago.

harryanderson

And here’s the rest of the story, which is the part Tiredofit won’t tell you.

It’s called global climate change, not just NE Pacific. And the study’s authors support the conclusions of almost all climate scientists—human emissions are warming the globe.

“But he and Amy Snover, head of UW’s Climate Impacts Group, said the larger point is that the study doesn’t change the long-term trend. ‘We know we’re in for a bumpy ride. We know that the influence of humans on climate is only growing over time. We expect over coming decades for that influence to get bigger and bigger.’

“On that, the study’s authors agreed. ‘Global warming is still proceeding,’ (co-author Nate) Mantua said. ‘And it’s still a really huge deal that’s going to shape the future and be a bigger and bigger part of our story.’”

ht tp://seattletimes.co m/html/localnews/2024601865_climateweatherstudyxml.html

Posted 85 days ago.

harryanderson

Again, the study’s co-author says, “Global warming is still proceeding and it’s still a really huge deal that’s going to shape the future…”

Tiredofit, thanks for providing yet more evidence of global climate change.

Heh, heh, heh.

That’s two more climate scientists to add to our tally. It’s now 8-0.

Posted 85 days ago.

harryanderson

And here’s the rest of the story, which is the part Tiredofit won’t tell you.

It’s called global climate change, not just NE Pacific. And the study’s authors support the conclusions of almost all climate scientists—human emissions are warming the globe.

“But he and Amy Snover, head of UW’s Climate Impacts Group, said the larger point is that the study doesn’t change the long-term trend. ‘We know we’re in for a bumpy ride. We know that the influence of humans on climate is only growing over time. We expect over coming decades for that influence to get bigger and bigger.’

“On that, the study’s authors agreed. ‘Global warming is still proceeding,’ (co-author Nate) Mantua said. ‘And it’s still a really huge deal that’s going to shape the future and be a bigger and bigger part of our story.’”

ht tp://seattletimes.co m/html/localnews/2024601865_climateweatherstudyxml.html

Posted 85 days ago.

moderation

there

Posted 85 days ago.

moderation

If was no EPA, there would be no making nice.

Posted 85 days ago.

harryanderson

Here's more supporters of action who surely aren't socialists-- businesses.

"With political efforts to slow global warming moving at a tortuous pace, some of the world’s largest companies are stepping into the void, pledging more support for renewable energy, greener supply chains and fresh efforts to stop the destruction of the world’s tropical forests."

h ttp://w ww.nytimes.c om/2014/09/24/business/energy-environment/passing-the-baton-in-climate-change-efforts

Posted 86 days ago.

Ohwiseone

Please Tiredbrain , DONT DUCK !

Posted 86 days ago.

Ohwiseone

As usual tiredbrain leaves a few out !Partners of People's Climate March in NYC:Around 1500 other organization in the USA alone ! One thing for sure , everyone is concerned that's why you see such a diversity !

Posted 86 days ago.

harryanderson

The US is lagging behind because of powerful politicians who refuse to consider the science of climate change.

It's bad when even China passes you up in implementing market-based solutions.

"The world's biggest-emitting nation, (China), accounting for nearly 30 percent of global greenhouse gas emissions, plans to use the market to slow its rapid growth in climate-changing emissions."

ht tp://ww w.reuters.c om/article/2014/08/31/china-carbontrading-idUSL3N0R107420140831

Posted 86 days ago.

Ohwiseone

Typical idiotic republican strategy of demonizing! Look , you got 400,000 people and out of that there are probably a few of every political bent even a few republicans I'm sure ! So it aint what you and your controllers make it out to be !

Posted 86 days ago.

harryanderson

A lot of these groups want to solve this problem with a leftist agenda. I just don't see any sense in belittling the clear and convincing scientific evidence, which lets them dictate their solution. That's nuts.

Posted 86 days ago.

mythravere

And lets not mince words here.

Your feelings about leftists is of the seething hatred kind.

And that is exactly why I say we should stop discussing the issue of climate change itself and focus on why people are discussing it on here to begin with.

Posted 86 days ago.

mythravere

"The two are inseparable as it IS a political agenda, not a scientific discussion." Tiredofit

I get what you are saying. The thing is that YOU think there is a political agenda and thats how you approach this issue.

And that approach completely blinds you.

You seeing it as a political issue...left versus right is exactly why we see you stating everything we lay on the table as false.

Its why you will deny anything we say even if its factually accurate and truthful.

You see this issue as leftist issue and given your feelings about leftists you are totally biased against this issue.

Posted 86 days ago.

Ohwiseone

You admitted that you can’t tell the difference between politics and observable fact, so it’s pointless to present scientific evidence.~~~~~ The serial liar and denier !!

Posted 86 days ago.
 
 
 
 

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