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94 days ago.
by slinky
harryanderson
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Thankfully, the anti-science propaganda campaign surrounding man-made climate change seems to have lost some of its effect.

Are you seeing storm clouds on the horizon? Two recent studies suggest that the latest anti-science campaign is following its forerunners--the propaganda campaigns attempting to refute science that tobacco causes cancer, that CFC's caused the hole in the ozone layer, and so on—into oblivion. Global warming denial seems to have climbed to a peak in 2010, and global warming acceptance is now climbing. This bodes well for rational public policy.

 
 

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Kendall78

In which way? Climate change deniers say the data gathered is wrong to suit their misguided beliefs.

In this case, the readings from hundreds of ships where commercial and military sailors are being trusted over buoys with no oversight.

Which do you trust....machines with no direct on site checks or hundreds of independent readings made by people?

Posted 247 days ago.

Kendall78

If it turns out that the scientific equipment is in error, it will change quite a few assumptions about climate change.

Posted 248 days ago.

Kendall78

Was listening to a report on NPR and it may turn out that measuring buoys in the oceans have been wrong for a long time and been giving lower temps than what the actual temps are. If true, then the supposed 20 year "no rise" would be false.

Posted 248 days ago.

harryanderson

Earlier, I referenced a Fox News article about major oil companies calling for a carbon tax.

That same article explained why they're doing so. It said, "While that involves a cost for fossil-fuel companies, they said 'carbon pricing policy frameworks' will help provide a roadmap for energy companies and investors."

The oil companies know there's a problem, and that the longer we refuse to address the problem, the more disruption it will cause.

Disruption is their worst enemy, so they're seeking a roadmap, or stability. They figure they can live with a carbon tax easier than they can live with the consequences of inaction.

Action is inevtable. These oil companies, being rational actors like the Dept. of Defense, call for action that doesn't destroy their investments in infrastructure and natural resources.

Posted 249 days ago.

harryanderson

The counter global warming movement's propaganda campaign has effectively confused many Americans.

It hasn't however, confused the climate scientists,

nor the Pentagon that is charged with keeping us secure,

nor four former Republican EPA Chiefs,

nor the major oil companies who have the most "skin in the game."

Posted 249 days ago.

harryanderson

I’ve posted before that even the oil companies who formerly funded the contrary position, including Shell, Exxon-Mobile, and BP, now acknowledge that greenhouse gases are causing global warming.

Not only that, the American Petroleum Institute, an industry group, lists global warming as one of the biggest threats to “America’s future prosperity.”

Now big oil companies are proposing a solution to our CO2 problem. Fox News reports:

“Six European oil and gas companies have called for a global price on carbon as a way to curb climate-warming emissions from the burning of fossil fuels.

“The chief executives of Royal Dutch Shell, BP, Eni, Total, Statoil and the BG Group made the appeal ahead of a new round of U.N. climate talks Monday in Bonn, Germany.”

htt p://w ww.foxnews.c om/world/2015/06/01/european-oil-and-gas-majors-urge-governments-to-introduce-carbon-pricing/

Posted 250 days ago.

Kunectdots

I wonder what "Australian Research Center" divined the idea that the citizens there would be safer with very strict gun control?

I'm so envious of that spot-on accuracy of the Australian intelligencia. I bet we should listen to them about forces effecting the weather to our detriment...too. (NOT!)

"AUSTRALIA: MORE VIOLENT CRIME DESPITE GUN BAN"

h ttp://w ww.ncpa.o rg/sub/dpd/index.php?Article_ID=17847

Posted 250 days ago.

Kunectdots

"big" long term ? Hmmmmmm? A struggle for world domination, commencing @ 1600 years ago and continues today in the guise of ISIS. I think that should be considered as a little more than a flash in the pan.

So you think ISIS or a manifestation there of "will be gone" in fifty years? You might run that past ISIS and see what they think of it.

Chapter Fifteen Islam and the Goal of World Domination

h ttp://w ww.answering-islam.o rg/Authors/JR/Future/ch15_islam_and_the_goal.htm

Posted 252 days ago.

Kendall78

I think a lot of it has to do with the "big" long term vs the "smaller" short term. Fifty years from now, the odds are that Isis will be gone while the effects of Global Warming will still be with us and possibly getting worse.

Posted 252 days ago.

Kunectdots

So from the standpoint of investment in Federal funds to defeat problems threatening the American people in Obama's eyes, Global Warming takes priority over ISIS.

How many American's have been beheaded by Global Warming, Mr. President?

Please pay attention at the 2:07 point of the following video; "McCaul on DHS spending 'more money' on climate change than combating violent extremism"

h ttps://w ww.youtube.c om/watch?v=1X1rbUUfgLA

Posted 252 days ago.

Kendall78

Obama that is

Posted 255 days ago.

Kendall78

"Considering that less than half of all Americans believe in..."

Belief is hardly something reliable. More than half of voting Americans believed Iba was best for Prez. Would you say they were right?

Posted 255 days ago.

Kendall78

Yep :)

Posted 255 days ago.

Kendall78

You're funny.

Posted 255 days ago.

Kendall78

Hmmm, what excuse did you have for cowering from questions in the past? Was it ignorance? True cowardice? Knowing you were wrong?

Posted 255 days ago.

Kendall78

Hundreds and hundreds of pages says you waste time quite well without excuse.

Posted 255 days ago.

Kendall78

Hahaha...yes, out in the open of all three people on here that know how you are.

Savor your *snicker* victory.

After you are done, would you like to discuss the topic you brought up on the ice age?

Posted 256 days ago.

Kendall78

:)

Don't get upset. It's OK. So you can't plea ignorance from now on when we tell you to look back. It will be alright.

Posted 256 days ago.

Kendall78

You are a card. You really thought I didn't remember my own numerous posts? This is fun.

Sorry that I'm snatching your glee from you. I know you don't ever get victory on here any, so this probably was a novel feeling for you.

Now then, care to discuss your past support of research saying global warming is happening due to man? Perhaps something more recent like what an ice age is.

Posted 256 days ago.

Kendall78

Now then, care to discuss your supporting research saying that global warming due to man is happening?

Posted 256 days ago.
 
 
 
 

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