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101 days ago.
by slinky
harryanderson
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Thankfully, the anti-science propaganda campaign surrounding man-made climate change seems to have lost some of its effect.

Are you seeing storm clouds on the horizon? Two recent studies suggest that the latest anti-science campaign is following its forerunners--the propaganda campaigns attempting to refute science that tobacco causes cancer, that CFC's caused the hole in the ozone layer, and so on—into oblivion. Global warming denial seems to have climbed to a peak in 2010, and global warming acceptance is now climbing. This bodes well for rational public policy.

 
 

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harryanderson

My analogy?

You're the one who wrote, "The use of fossil fuels... most likely will phase out for the most part."

You won't respond to the implications raised by your own statements?

Posted 524 days ago.

harryanderson

Or perhaps you think it's better not to duck.

Posted 524 days ago.

harryanderson

Tiredofit, you wrote,

"The use of fossil fuels most likely will become less advantageous as time goes on and they most likely will phase out for the most part."

Do you agree that it's foolish to ignore something that will "most likely" happen?

Posted 524 days ago.

mythravere

"Still in want someone to demonstrate provable scientific fact the PROVES mans CO2 output is warming the planet????"

You are hiding behind a question. You act as if no one has attempted to lay the case out for mans role in climate change.

We have and you rejected everything.

Proof can not be given to someone who's prepared to ignore and deny every last shred of it.

This is how you are conducting yourself and it shows full well that you are not interested in any facts.

Posted 524 days ago.

Kendall78

"I dont care to win, I care about facts,"

If that were true, you would post facts....but you don't!

Posted 525 days ago.

harryanderson

"The use of fossil fuels most likely will become less advantageous as time goes on and they most likely will phase out for the most part. My opinion."

That's what I've been saying. They'll phase out for a number of reasons.

"However the current scare mongering and push for govt takeover is not acceptable to me."

I couldn't agree more, especially about the government takeover. Those of us who oppose a takeover must prepare or own response to the "phase out" you said is "most likely."

It's foolish to ignore a "most likely" future, isn't it?

See you later.

Posted 525 days ago.

harryanderson

"I have no vested interest in the sale of fossil fuels."

I have a large vested interest in the sale of fossil fuels. So do Exxon-Mobil, BP, and Shell. And we've all accepted that CO2 released into the atmosphere causes global warming.

Posted 525 days ago.

harryanderson

I told you I wasn't going to waste time looking up when I admonished someone.

I told you I did. Do you believe me?

Posted 525 days ago.

mythravere

Tiredofit all I can tell you is that you have actually allow information no matter how much you dislike its meaning..you have to allow it to inform and change your mind.

Acceptance of the truth is the key.

So far no truth has gained any acceptance by you. And I doubt that any will be accepted. Ever.

We've laid the case out for global warming. You've rejected every single thing we have put on the table. And your own position isn't consistent.

So theres that...

Posted 525 days ago.

harryanderson

You want to see provable facts. I cited 43 scientific papers. Read them. If you have a problem with their conclusions, take it up with the experts. Write your own peer-reviewed paper.

Posted 525 days ago.

harryanderson

I'm not going to look it up, Tiredofit.

I told you I did. I can think of at least 3 others here whom I've corrected.

And I believe I may have disputed myth on this. Have I, myth?

Posted 525 days ago.

mythravere

"There may be a day when renewable energy is feasible, its not NOW."

Well finally something we do agree on.

Posted 525 days ago.

harryanderson

Yes. I have admonished others on here beside you.

Posted 525 days ago.

harryanderson

""There may be a day when renewable energy is feasible, its not NOW."

That didn't answer the question. Again, do you agree we should reduce our use of fossil fuels in the future?

Posted 525 days ago.

harryanderson

Have I called you offensive names?

Posted 525 days ago.

harryanderson

"I don't disagree with any of the last few reasons you cite for getting off fossil fuels."

So you agree that we should burn less fossil fuels in the future?

Posted 525 days ago.

harryanderson

Here's how the Bible instructs us.

"But avoid foolish and ignorant disputes, knowing that they generate strife."

A person doesn't have to be a Christian to see the wisdom in that.

Posted 525 days ago.

harryanderson

We don't need demonize one another.

Consider me and you, myth. We have opposite foundational principles. I'm a Christian and you're an atheist. We have debated that and neither of us has converted the other.

But for all that, we've never resorted to name-calling, and I've come to respect you. That's as it should be.

Posted 525 days ago.

harryanderson

I disagree. He is interested in winning. He's so interested in "winning" that he's willing to forsake common decency by calling others foul names. And even try to get other posters to attack one another.

Posted 525 days ago.

mythravere

Which leads into three possibilities in regards to your motivations.

You are wrong and know you are wrong but putting a show to save face.

You are just being argumentative and contrary just because you can.

Or you actually think you are right. Which given your style of discourse leads me to believe that if this is the case then you are insane.

Posted 525 days ago.
 
 
 
 

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