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3 hours ago.
by Stillhere
harryanderson
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Thankfully, the anti-science propaganda campaign surrounding man-made climate change seems to have lost some of its effect.

Are you seeing storm clouds on the horizon? Two recent studies suggest that the latest anti-science campaign is following its forerunners--the propaganda campaigns attempting to refute science that tobacco causes cancer, that CFC's caused the hole in the ozone layer, and so on—into oblivion. Global warming denial seems to have climbed to a peak in 2010, and global warming acceptance is now climbing. This bodes well for rational public policy.

 
 

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Stillhere

IF co2 is responsible for the warming of the last century, why did it end 18 years ago while Co2 level continued to rise unabated?>>???

Posted 75 days ago.

Stillhere

I have asked if fries are wanted many times, I worked at a McDonalds back when was in college. YEP not ashamed of working fast food, or being a Union Steward in the IAM, both good learning experiences.

Posted 75 days ago.

Ohwiseone

Don't you have to go to work tiredbrain ? You know, that job that rewards your excellence !LOLOL!!!!Don't forget to ask if they want fries with that order !

Posted 75 days ago.

harryanderson

@ ohwiseone,

You've picked an excellent source of information if you're getting your information from Dr. Michael Mann, an actual climate scientist who has the expertise to understand the issue. He's published 160 peer-reviewed papers.

And Dr. Mann's trustworthiness has been investigated and he's been cleared of fraud. He's withstood political attacks, like the investigation Va. Attorney General Ken Cuchinelli conducted against him and the CRU hacked emails fake controversy.

In all these, Dr. Mann was exonerated of any fraud.

So Dr. Mann has expertise and investigations have failed to find him untrustworthy. He's a good source.

Posted 75 days ago.

harryanderson

@Kendall,

It's okay to believe people on some things, but not on others. I don't know anybody who's always right.

But here's the main point: I don't know of any climate scientist who disputes the basic tenet of global warming: that CO2 is a greenhouse gas.

Posted 75 days ago.

Stillhere

So why no warming?

Posted 75 days ago.

Stillhere

MIT climate scientist Dr Richard Lindzen

Their excuse for the absence of warming over the past 17 years is that the heat is hiding in the deep ocean.  However, this is simply an admission that the models fail to simulate the exchanges of heat between the surface layers and the deeper oceans.  However, it is this heat transport that plays a major role in natural internal variability of climate, and the IPCC assertions that observed warming can be attributed to man depend crucially on their assertion that these models accurately simulate natural internal variability.  Thus, they now, somewhat obscurely, admit that their crucial assumption was totally unjustified.

Posted 75 days ago.

Stillhere

Still no warming in 18 years

Posted 75 days ago.

Kendall78

Unlike you Stillwrong, Harry actually explains his point of view on topics. I've never known him to just go into absolutes when it suits him.

Your style though is to post whatever is easy and never break down your thoughts on the topic. You two are hardly similar to one another.

Posted 75 days ago.

Stillhere

Lolol skeptical science????? Michael Mann's activist website lolol. Yea ok

Posted 75 days ago.

Stillhere

Nothing wrong in pointing out his faulty logic in believing part of what a doc says but ignoring the rest. Wouldn't you agree?

I agree 100% just like I point out Harry believing science when it suites him

Posted 75 days ago.

Ohwiseone

Is there a scientific consensus on global warming?~~~~~~~ YES !

www dot skepticalscience dot com/global-warming-scientific-c

Posted 76 days ago.

Kendall78

Nothing wrong in pointing out his faulty logic in believing part of what a doc says but ignoring the rest. Wouldn't you agree?

Posted 76 days ago.

harryanderson

@ Kendall78,

It's best not to be drawn into idiotic behavior, lest you and all your posts disappear.

Posted 76 days ago.

Kendall78

@Harry I was trying to see if Stillwrong considers what Dr. Pachauri as a "provable fact" or evidence..proof..whatever.

If he does then he has to agree with everything the doc says. We both know of course he won't because he is an idiot.

Posted 76 days ago.

Stillhere

No warming in 18 years and you cling to your phony consensus.

Posted 76 days ago.

Stillhere

There is NO consensus but nice try

Posted 76 days ago.

harryanderson

@Kendall78

So, if you meant to imply that Dr. Pachauri is in the consensus camp, you have done so.

Posted 76 days ago.

Ohwiseone

If they get serious tiredbrain troll they have ways of deleting you from your server !It may be happening as I speak !

Posted 76 days ago.

harryanderson

@Kendall78

You’re quite right, sir.

Those interested may find Dr. Pachauri’s quote, which came last March when the IPCC issued its latest report, here:

htt p://ww w.npr.or g/blogs/thetwo-way/2014/03/31/297092061/u-n-report-raises-climate-change-warning-points-to-opportunities

He has also written:

“A multilateral agreement to tackle climate change is absolutely essential…”

htt p://ww w.theguardian.co m/environment/cif-green/2010/jan/04/climate-change-delay-denial

And he has said:

“What is happening, and what is likely to happen, convinces me that the world must be really ambitious and very determined at moving toward a 350 target.”

htt p://ww w.webcitation.o rg/5nCVgJOIV

Posted 76 days ago.
 
 
 
 

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