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8 minutes ago.
by Ohwiseone
harryanderson
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Thankfully, the anti-science propaganda campaign surrounding man-made climate change seems to have lost some of its effect.

Are you seeing storm clouds on the horizon? Two recent studies suggest that the latest anti-science campaign is following its forerunners--the propaganda campaigns attempting to refute science that tobacco causes cancer, that CFC's caused the hole in the ozone layer, and so on—into oblivion. Global warming denial seems to have climbed to a peak in 2010, and global warming acceptance is now climbing. This bodes well for rational public policy.

 
 

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harryanderson

Actually, Tiredofit, I proved what I set out to prove--that you wouldn't accept the word of any climate scientists, not even the skeptical ones. Of course, that was obvious, since you said "it's not a scientific discussion."

Posted 65 days ago.

harryanderson

Quite, myth.

You were certainly right when you said he would never accept proof. He asked and I provided. He would neither accept nor reject it.

I do think you're smart about this: You're smart enough to weigh evidence before you make a decision.

And that makes you a lot smarter than a lot of others. Some won't even weigh the evidence they asked for.

Posted 65 days ago.

mythravere

Harry you said sometimes I am not smart. Thats fine. But you do realize that tiredofit will never give you a straight answer on anything.

He'll just move the goal posts.

So just saying. You might want to use the advice you gave me.

Posted 65 days ago.

harryanderson

I'm confused. You said, "No, Harry." Does that mean you don't believe Dr. Lindzen is right when he says CO2 is a greenhouse gas?

Posted 65 days ago.

harryanderson

So you do agree that CO2 is a greenhouse gas. Should I go on to the next piece of evidence?

Posted 65 days ago.

harryanderson

Will you address the evidence you asked for?

Posted 65 days ago.

harryanderson

I didn't ask you if you thought he believed. I asked you if you accepted his word that CO2 is a greenhouse gas. Yes or no?

Posted 65 days ago.

Ohwiseone

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Posted 65 days ago.

Ohwiseone

The dependence on fossil fuel energy sources since the industrial revolution has undoubtedly shaped economic prosperity for the developed world. However, an unfortunate by-product of fossil fuel combustion is the emission of carbon dioxide (CO2), an important greenhouse gas that is known to influence long-term climatic variations through its ability to absorb infra-red radiation.

Human emissions of CO2 have resulted in atmospheric levels higher than any period over the last 20 million years. The continued emission of CO2 will lead to widespread climate change related impacts. ~~Climate Change Research Centre (CCRC) UNSW Australia, Sydney NSW 2052 Australia All I advocate is there IS research that says man has and will have a role in climate change !

Posted 65 days ago.

harryanderson

If you mean that it's too easy for you to run away from the issue at hand, I agree.

Yes or no. Is Co2 a greenhouse gas?

Posted 65 days ago.

harryanderson

But I didn't ask for evidence. You did. Let's agree on the basic science first, then we'll proceed to the subtleties.

Posted 65 days ago.

harryanderson

You asked me to present evidence, and I did. Stop trying to change the subject.

Posted 65 days ago.

mythravere

" However, it is this heat transport that plays a major role in natural internal variability of climate, and the IPCC assertions that observed warming can be attributed to man depend crucially on their assertion that these models accurately simulate natural internal variability."

The thing about these models is that I get the sense that its hard to predict in real time what the climate is going to do in the near term.

We've already seen them get this wrong with hurricane prediction.

Posted 65 days ago.

harryanderson

Why won't you give a straight answer?

Posted 65 days ago.

mythravere

"Co2.is a trace gas making up a very minute percentage of our atmosphere"

You are right. But our planet has pretty much had an atmosphere with a chemical makeup that stay the same for a long period of time.

That is until we started burning carbon based fuels in ever increasing amounts.

We know that in lots of cases life itself hangs by a thread. Too much of this or too much of that and things change some for the better others for the worst.

And so it goes with how our climate behaves when the chemical composition of our atmosphere is changed and those changes lead other changes. Like the heat trapping ability of our atmosphere is increasing.

Posted 65 days ago.

harryanderson

Do you accept that CO2 is a greenhouse gas?

Posted 65 days ago.

harryanderson

Are you saying you won't won't accept the evidence I provided? Yes or no? If no, why not? What's wrong with it?

Posted 65 days ago.

mythravere

"If you recall one person on here tried to OUT you by your real name. I called them on it as out of bounds"

Thanks for that but I have to say that in this debate you aren't being fair at all.

The whole point of you asking for proof is just so that you can deny it.

Posted 65 days ago.

harryanderson

You ask me to provide evidence. I did. Then I asked if you accept that evidence. You haven't answered.

Posted 65 days ago.

harryanderson

So you reject the scientific testimony of Dr. Lindzen that CO2 is a greenhouse gas? Why?

Posted 65 days ago.
 
 
 
 

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