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31 minutes ago.
by Ithink
harryanderson
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Thankfully, the anti-science propaganda campaign surrounding man-made climate change seems to have lost some of its effect.

Are you seeing storm clouds on the horizon? Two recent studies suggest that the latest anti-science campaign is following its forerunners--the propaganda campaigns attempting to refute science that tobacco causes cancer, that CFC's caused the hole in the ozone layer, and so on—into oblivion. Global warming denial seems to have climbed to a peak in 2010, and global warming acceptance is now climbing. This bodes well for rational public policy.

 
 

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harryanderson

Ohwiseone, I wish you'd stop with the name-calling. It isn't helpful.

Posted 1 day ago.

harryanderson

I have faith in our system, and I believe the nonpolitical problem-solvers will shove the lying politicians aside, roll up their sleeves, and fix it. It's already happening with some of our biggest, most hard-headed institutions like Exxon, Shell, and the Dept. of Defense.

Posted 1 day ago.

Ohwiseone

The tiredbrain troll has run out of material from Faux and apparently has to go get more info from its masters !

Posted 1 day ago.

harryanderson

Al Gore apparently misled people with his movie. I say " apparently" because I haven't seen it. He's a politician, and he seems to think a catastrophe is coming unless we enact his political agenda.

My review of the science causes me to disagree with the gloom-and-doom political-agenda bunch. I agree with the CEO of Exxon, who said, "It's an engineering problem with an engineering solution."

So I'm optimistic. We*****at politics, but we're great engineers.

If the politicking doesn't prevent the engineering, we'll be fine.

Posted 1 day ago.

harryanderson

Dr. Lindzen " has had difficulty establishing his case in the scientific literature," so he has taken it to the political arena.

Unfortunately, political-agenda discussions are the places we least expect to find truth. Whether they be on the right or on the left, politicians lie.

Posted 1 day ago.

harryanderson

Dr. Lindzen agrees with global warming GHG's, but predicts They will cause little harm because fewer cirrus clouds will allow more AGW heat to escape.

However--

"Today, most mainstream researchers consider Dr. Lindzen’s theory discredited. He does not agree, but he has had difficulty establishing his case in the scientific literature."

Posted 1 day ago.

harryanderson

Exactly. I've never known a climate scientist to deny that CO2 is a greenhouse gas. Only political-agenda people.

According to the NYT article I referenced earlier, even the aforementioned "Dr. Lindzen accepts the elementary tenets of climate science. He agrees that carbon dioxide is a greenhouse gas, calling people who dispute that point 'nutty.' He agrees that the level of it is rising because of human activity and that this should warm the climate."

Posted 1 day ago.

moderation

You're late, tired.

Posted 1 day ago.

moderation

Do you really consider the opinion of a journalist to be portrayed and accepted as the opinion of an educated and accredited, field tester scholar of a scientific discipline,ithink? .Coleman, first of all was a "weatherman", with a degree in journalism.He wasn't published.He served with the Weather Channel for ONE year,only.He was a businessman,who could could do weather segments for TV.And his denouncement of GW/CG was totally political,not scientifically factual in any way. And,Happer.Well he is a physicist, but optics is his area of expertise.And he basically said that excessive co2 was a good thing for this planet. And, all of this on Tea Party stationary.

Posted 1 day ago.

Ohwiseone

I like the way you two prominent righties sit around and pat each others arses and say well done ! Maybe you two can get together and listen to Hannity sometime ! LOLOL!!!

Posted 2 days ago.

Ohwiseone

Besides the MIT climatologist is probably working off a government grant and therefore the research is skewed !

Posted 2 days ago.

Ohwiseone

Is there a scientific consensus on global warming?~~~~~~~ YES , that's so !!

www dot skepticalscience dot com/global-warming-scientific-c~~~~The tiredbrain troll doesn't like inconvenient facts !Those facts make it look ,stupid , foolish , ignorant , right-wing whack job , You pick which ever you think fits ! Or add your own !

Posted 2 days ago.

Stillhere

Notice the snark, lol poor Harry.

Posted 2 days ago.

harryanderson

Anyway, you can continue your political-agenda discussion without me for a while. It's time to play basketball.

Posted 2 days ago.

harryanderson

I agree that the politicians and greenies like to portray catastrophe. I am in neither group.

Since I belong to neither group, I'm more focused on Lindzen's scientific opinions, and whether those are shared by his peers, than his political opinions.

That's why I don't respond to the obsession you and Ithink have with my politics. For me, it's a scientific discussion, not a political agenda.

Posted 2 days ago.

All very true, Stillhere.

The article about Coleman is out new today. I know he has been discussed before. He says no warming in over 18 years.

Good talking to you. Gonna take a break.

Posted 2 days ago.

Stillhere

Lindzen featured in CBS News: 'The opportunities for taxation, for policies, for control, for crony capitalism are just immense, you can see their eyes bulge. Even many of the people who are supportive of sounding the global warning alarm, back off from catastophism. It’s the politicians and the green movement that like to portray catastrophe.'

Posted 2 days ago.

Stillhere

MIT Climate Scientist Dr. Richard Lindzen: ‘The changes that have occurred due to global warning are too small to account for’ – ‘Global warming, climate change, are just a dream come true for politicians’

Posted 2 days ago.

Stillhere

Yes ITHINK, notice the veneer of niceness is wearing off and Harry gets snarkier by the week.

Watching the scam fall apart is not easy.

Posted 2 days ago.

harryanderson

Well, Stillhere, I see you refuse to ackowledge the contradictions in your own statements.

At least Dr. Lindzen, unlike you, acknowledges some of the major mistakes he's made. The NYT reported:

"Dr. Lindzen acknowledged that the 2009 paper contained 'some stupid mistakes' in his handling of the satellite data. 'It was just embarrassing,' he said in an interview. 'The technical details of satellite measurements are really sort of grotesque.'”

h ttp://w ww.nytimes.c om/2012/05/01/science/earth/clouds-effect-on-climate-change-is-last-bastion-for-dissenters.html?pagewanted=3&_r=0

Stillhere, you seem ignorant of.basic attribution principles, so I wonder if your info came from the research that Dr. Lindzen said contains "embarrassing" "stupid mistakes."

Posted 2 days ago.
 
 
 
 

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