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3 days ago.
by mythravere
harryanderson
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Thankfully, the anti-science propaganda campaign surrounding man-made climate change seems to have lost some of its effect.

Are you seeing storm clouds on the horizon? Two recent studies suggest that the latest anti-science campaign is following its forerunners--the propaganda campaigns attempting to refute science that tobacco causes cancer, that CFC's caused the hole in the ozone layer, and so on—into oblivion. Global warming denial seems to have climbed to a peak in 2010, and global warming acceptance is now climbing. This bodes well for rational public policy.

 
 

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Tiredofit

Prepare for some serious global warming to tonight.

Posted 102 days ago.

mythravere

The only conclusion that can be drawn from the manner in which they lay their arguments out is that they are playing a us vs them political game.

Posted 102 days ago.

mythravere

I and the others who side with the scientists on this issue have laid out why we believe the scientists are correct.

We have put forth points for consideration as a means of giving those who do not believe the scientists a place to show why they are correct.

So far all we have seen is a tendency to attack those who actually do the work in regards to the science and to attack those who believe it with insults and accusations of hidden agendas etc.

No conclusive evidence has been put forth at all to support their positions.

Posted 102 days ago.

mythravere

Looking at the psychology of why an individual would consistently stand behind a position when they can not offer evidence of the correctness of that position is another point of debate on this issue.

Posted 102 days ago.

mythravere

Tiredofit and the folks like him have in front of them a table full of evidence that shows that man is the cause of the climate warming up.

But they take one thing like grant money and use that to essentially wipe all the evidence off the table. Without providing a shred of proof themselves that all of the information pertaining to mankind's role in climate change can be disregarded solely because the whole reason for the scientists saying that man is the cause is strictly because they are seeking grant money.

Where is the proof of that.

Whats also interesting is that even if one isolated case of that is found they will in turn dismiss the whole body of evidence because of that one case.

That right there is utter dishonesty.

Posted 102 days ago.

mythravere

Oh I forgot to mention something.

What evidence has been put forth by the skeptics that has been proven to be right?

Posted 102 days ago.

mythravere

You see its not about the facts but about resisting any and all positions their political opponents take.

Posted 102 days ago.

mythravere

But to be honest I think there has been a shift from large energy companies (mainly oil producers in my opinion) who take that position. They are more accepting of the facts surrounding climate change.

But what's happened is that the doubt they have sown has taken hold in certain political circles that have an extreme tendency of once a position is taken on a subject they maintain that position regardless of the facts.

That'd be the group you call home tiredofit.

Posted 102 days ago.

mythravere

Well you know there is this thing called physical evidence that the scientists have the points to them being right.

The skeptics on the other hand have well monied backers who have a vested interest in the world's energy portfolio staying reliant on the energy they provide.

Posted 102 days ago.

Tiredofit

Wonder how much money the Heartland Institute paid him to make a presentation for them?

HMMMMM so you are suggesting Myth that MONEY might skew a persons view of supposed climtate change? But only skeptics right? Thanks for making my point.

Posted 103 days ago.

harryanderson

It’s very cold in the Eastern and Central US, but that’s not representative of anthropogenic climate change.

Elsewhere…

“Temperatures in parts of Australia are set to reach almost 50C in the coming days, with total fire bans in place in northern regions of South Australia and a week-long heatwave enveloping Queensland.”

w ww.theguardian.co m/weather/2014/jan/02/heatwave-temperatures-climb-towards-50c

50C=122F

But that’s not representative of climate trends, either. In order to make a statement about climate trends, you must have a…

…trend.

Posted 103 days ago.

mythravere

Next easily debunkable point please.

Posted 103 days ago.

mythravere

For the love of all that is holy you are spewing bull crap.

A quick search shows the truth on Mr Evans.

Wonder how much money the Heartland Institute paid him to make a presentation for them?

Posted 103 days ago.

Tiredofit

AMEN brother

Posted 103 days ago.

Tiredofit

Let’s set a few things straight.

The whole idea that carbon dioxide is the main cause of the recent global warming is based on a guess that was proved false by empirical evidence during the 1990s. But the gravy train was too big, with too many jobs, industries, trading profits, political careers, and the possibility of world government and total control riding on the outcome. So rather than admit they were wrong, the governments, and their tame climate scientists, now outrageously maintain the fiction that carbon dioxide is a dangerous pollutant.

Posted 103 days ago.

Tiredofit

former AGW advocate and scientist David Evans has a good article here as well.

The debate about global warming has reached ridiculous proportions and is full of micro-thin half-truths and misunderstandings. I am a scientist who was on the carbon gravy train, understands the evidence, was once an alarmist, but am now a skeptic. Watching this issue unfold has been amusing but, lately, worrying. This issue is tearing society apart, making fools out of our politicians.

Posted 103 days ago.

Tiredofit

Hide the decline

Posted 103 days ago.

Tiredofit

you cannot see what is RIGHT IN FRONT OF YOU. rather you depend on those whose very job depends on funding from enviromaxists

Posted 103 days ago.

Tiredofit

CHICAGO — Snow-covered roads, high winds and ice were creating dangerous driving conditions Sunday from the Dakotas to Missouri to Delaware ahead of a "polar vortex" that will bring below-zero — and possibly record-breaking — temperatures not seen in years to much of the nation,

Posted 103 days ago.

Tiredofit

So I guess once again, a swing and a miss.

Posted 103 days ago.
 
 
 
 

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