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by mythravere
harryanderson
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Thankfully, the anti-science propaganda campaign surrounding man-made climate change seems to have lost some of its effect.

Are you seeing storm clouds on the horizon? Two recent studies suggest that the latest anti-science campaign is following its forerunners--the propaganda campaigns attempting to refute science that tobacco causes cancer, that CFC's caused the hole in the ozone layer, and so on—into oblivion. Global warming denial seems to have climbed to a peak in 2010, and global warming acceptance is now climbing. This bodes well for rational public policy.

 
 

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mythravere

And time and again you always touch back on the notion the those who support the idea that man has an influence on our climate is pushing a socialist agenda.

Which no one is.

I for one do not support the notion that you have attributed to me in stating that I believe the government should take over all energy assets.

Posted 36 days ago.

mythravere

Because thats the underlying gist of your crusade on here.

You versus the ones you suspect/assume are socialists.

Remember you said it yourself this isn't a science debate but a political debate.

Posted 36 days ago.

mythravere

"All political campaigns play on fear and emotion."

Aaah but I presume that the political campaigns that influence you operate without the use of fear and emotion?

You can say no political sources influence you but I would have to call bs on that.

After who tells you the socialists are a problem?

If no one has informed you have you first hand knowledge that socialists are causing all of this?

Have you caught socialists in the act yourself?

Posted 36 days ago.

Ohwiseone

The troll is hungry but if you don't feed it maybe it will just go away !More attempts to bury everything in bullsh^t !

Posted 36 days ago.

mythravere

So according to you Tiredofit man has no role in climate change.

Ok.

Have you ever wondered why they picked climate change as thee issue with which to grab all this control?

Posted 36 days ago.

mythravere

"You cannot make a case for man made global warming so now you move to a supply issue as your reason. "

Are your really that f ucking stupid?

I am not using supply as a reason. I'm just wondering why they picked climate change to hoax and not something like fossil fuel scarcity which does have an immediate effect on people when the prices increase.

I am not switching reasons. God dam.

Posted 36 days ago.

mythravere

I'll tell you what. I'll play your game.

Lets say mans influence on climate is a cooked up thing,a hoax. Who's supporting data is completely fake.

Why the climate and not something else?

There has to be a reason they picked the climate to be their lynchpin?

Whats that reason.

Posted 36 days ago.

mythravere

"You just get dumber, ever heard of the Marcellus shale and Utica shale BOOM happening all around you lol"

Hello where have the biggest and most historical increases in fossil fuels been in the past 10 years?

Oil. I don't see this nation converting all of our ground based transportation needs to gas anytime soon so thats moot.

Oil is a whole nother beast. It runs the world.

Posted 36 days ago.

mythravere

" a way of organizing a society in which major industries are owned and controlled by the government rather than by individual people and companies"

Also when you speak of this...I think you have it the wrong way around.

Individual people and companies own the government.

Posted 36 days ago.

mythravere

"a way of organizing a society in which major industries are owned and controlled by the government rather than by individual people and companies"

Yea well thats a pure socialist system.

That would never happen. Because greed.

Its individuals using the government for their own gain.

Just take the idea of government as one cohesive entity pull the cover off of it.

Its a bunch of individuals doing things in their best interest.

Posted 36 days ago.

mythravere

Heres a better question.

This whole thing centers around the use of fossil fuels.

If man made climate change is a hoax with most of the effects way off in the future. Why not use some other means of gaining what the climate change movement is trying to gain.

Like for instance. State that the world is running out of fossil fuels and action needs to be taken to move us off of those fuels and onto renewable ones.

With that issue there is immediate proof that we are getting low on fossil fuels. Look at the increase in prices we have seen.

In other words why use climate as the issue and not something else?

Posted 36 days ago.

mythravere

What is government? In this day and age it is a bunch of individuals acting in their own self interests. Of course they form like minded groups.

They take issues and use them for their own gain.

Posted 36 days ago.

mythravere

These scientists that you say are just in it for the the funding.

If thats true then all they are doing is working the system for their own gain.

Doesn't matter how honest the method a person can use for making their living is...there is always a sucker that will buy what they have if its wrapped up enough.

Thats a capitalist.

Posted 36 days ago.

mythravere

"Govt taxation control and regulations are NOT hallmarks of capitalism "

Capitalize:take the chance to gain advantage from.

But people deciding to use something as a means of gaining something else....is what exactly?

People,governments are capitalizing on climate change to gain control, and take other peoples wealth etc.

They are using the climate change movement to their advantage therefore they are capitalizing on it.

Posted 36 days ago.

Ohwiseone

The troll is still hungry but if you don't feed it maybe it will just go away !More attempts to bury everything in bullsh^t !

Posted 36 days ago.

mythravere

“Global warming, climate change, all these things are just a dream come true for politicians. The opportunities for taxation, for policies, for control, for crony capitalism are just immense, you can see their eyes bulge,” he says."

You know what thats called?

Capitalism!

Posted 36 days ago.

mythravere

Hey Tiredofit. Care to explain what's causing the weather and environmental phenomenon that points to a planet that is warming? If not caused by man then what natural processes are behind the phenomenon that points to warming?

Posted 36 days ago.

harryanderson

Actually, I agree totally with Dr. Lindzen that we need better models.

Do you think we need better models, Tiredofit?

Posted 36 days ago.

harryanderson

So, Tiredofit,

Do you accept that CO2 is a greenhouse gas? Will you dare to answer the question this time?

I'm betting you won't.

Posted 36 days ago.

harryanderson

“Essentially everybody agrees.,” including Lindzen.

Oops. There’s more.

, “Dr. Lindzen accepts the elementary tenets of climate science. He agrees that carbon dioxide is a greenhouse gas, calling people who dispute that point ‘nutty.’”

htt p://ww w.nytimes.co m/2012/05/01/science/earth/clouds-effect-on-climate-change-is-last-bastion-for-dissenters.html?pagewanted=3&_r=0

Posted 36 days ago.
 
 
 
 

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