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21 hours ago.
by mythravere
harryanderson
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Thankfully, the anti-science propaganda campaign surrounding man-made climate change seems to have lost some of its effect.

Are you seeing storm clouds on the horizon? Two recent studies suggest that the latest anti-science campaign is following its forerunners--the propaganda campaigns attempting to refute science that tobacco causes cancer, that CFC's caused the hole in the ozone layer, and so on—into oblivion. Global warming denial seems to have climbed to a peak in 2010, and global warming acceptance is now climbing. This bodes well for rational public policy.

 
 

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Tiredofit

I know it's easier to blame others than to take responsibility for you choices, but I assure you, it's in your hands to change your circumstances, coveting what others have will only leave you more bitter.

Posted 99 days ago.

mythravere

"If your life is a living he77, how is that anyone's fault but yours? How did any wealthy person cause your problems?"

Lets say I was paid with food. My employer has a choice. Pay me with food that makes me healthy for myself and ultimately him when I bring myself to work. Or pay me with the bare minimum that keeps me alive and nothing else?

Its all about quality of life. The higher the quality the better off we all are. Even the people who staff the lower skilled jobs. If their life is bad where does that usually go. Substance abuse and all its social problems which often translates to crime which brings down the quality of life.

Posted 99 days ago.

Tiredofit

Envy is a sin

Posted 99 days ago.

Tiredofit

Do explain how any wealthy person ruined your life

Posted 99 days ago.

mythravere

"There is no perfect system, however capitalism offfers opportunity"

It does. But capitalism can be as evil as some of the socialist countries we have seen if allowed to run its course unchecked.

Posted 99 days ago.

Tiredofit

If your life is a living he77, how is that anyone's fault but yours? How did any wealthy person cause your problems?

Posted 99 days ago.

mythravere

Also I think it funny a god fearing Christian is worried about wealth.

Whats the bible say about living in this world but not of this world?

Posted 99 days ago.

Tiredofit

There is no perfect system, however capitalism offfers opportunity, and that is a man should really desire, there are always those that want taken care of, Envy is NOT a way of life.

Posted 99 days ago.

mythravere

All you have to do is list those countries and we will see how miserable those people are their wallowing in their socialist he11hole.

Posted 99 days ago.

mythravere

Once you answer that question then we will compare and contrast on where this nation is becoming like those countries. If anywhere at all.

I have a feeling we are about to see some more ignorance on your part.

Posted 99 days ago.

mythravere

Here is where you are in serious error.

But a clarification first.

To what countries with socialist systems are you referring?

Posted 99 days ago.

mythravere

That being said I'll say this. Lets say that you are that capitalist at the top and I am a bottom feeder so to speak.

What's in it for me if the continued amassing of your wealth makes my life living he11?

You see the wealthy are small in number so it'd be in their best interest if the majority is allowed a little comfort and happiness at their expense.

Otherwise whats the point in the majority in allowing the system to continue as it is when it crushes so many.

There is a lot of points of consideration I left out. Just arguing the essential points here. Competition would insure wages wouldn't be rock bottom for example. But I think I made my point.

Posted 99 days ago.

Tiredofit

You are the perfect lackey for socialism, dead end job, hopeless and think if somehow they take from successful people, you will somehow benefit, because you cannot do it on your own. Well you at least have the opportunity in a capitalist system whether you chose to try or not, the same cannot be said for socialism.

Posted 99 days ago.

Tiredofit

Oh yes myth those socialist countries are all about equality, everyone equally miserable. But yet the elite in those systems still live opulent lives, ever notice that

Posted 99 days ago.

mythravere

When you cry about wealth redistribution I wonder what I would be paid if a company wasn't forced to pay a minimum wage.

You can say that it would be up to me to better myself and make more money. That would be true. But there is only a finite amount of success available in a given populace. You only have the potential of so many top spots.

In your ideal system there would be two groups of people the successful and those left over with what's left. And in a capitalist system thats allowed to do as it wishes all of the wealth generated will invariable be concentrated toward the top.

Posted 99 days ago.

mythravere

I don't know about you but I don't want my worth determined by some person whose only concern is making themselves wealthier.

Again there is nothing wrong with being wealthy but given the human ability to flat out not care about their fellow man do we really want a system that essentially allows a person to set the price of someone else's worth?

Posted 99 days ago.

mythravere

The thing about social justice is that it allows people to have worth that in all honesty wouldn't be given to them by capitalists. After all what are capitalists after?

More wealth. Nothing wrong with that at all. But if given the ability to do what they wanted most of them wouldn't do much for those working under them. History shows that pretty well. I mean what gave rise to unions?

It wasn't because they were happy and paid well was it.

Posted 99 days ago.

mythravere

Tiredofit when you say things like that it makes me wonder.

In your perfect capitalistic world I wonder...what would my wages be...what hours would I work to earn those wages...would I be buying the goods I need from a company store...how safe would my work environment be?

So many questions.

Posted 99 days ago.

mythravere

On the flip side what if those rains became less frequent?

The problem with climate change is that it is going to cause our seasonal weather to go from what is known and expected to what isn't known.

Our seasonal weather around here may vary widely from year to year as climate change progresses.

Now I know you are going to use that blunt instrument you call a brain and say that I am saying that we will see winter weather in the summer etc. But thats not what I am saying.

Plants and animals have a narrow optimal band of what's livable in their respective environments. Going too far outside those boundaries will cause problems.

Posted 99 days ago.

Tiredofit

Oniel makes the accusation that skeptics are funded by oil money, however he does not provide evidence of it. What of the supporters of Mann made climate change THEORY? Unions enviromarxists, socialists and all others that would like to destroy capitalism and usher in social justice as they call it. Really it's good ole wealth redistribution.

Posted 99 days ago.
 
 
 
 

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