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50 minutes ago.
by Ohwiseone
harryanderson
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Thankfully, the anti-science propaganda campaign surrounding man-made climate change seems to have lost some of its effect.

Are you seeing storm clouds on the horizon? Two recent studies suggest that the latest anti-science campaign is following its forerunners--the propaganda campaigns attempting to refute science that tobacco causes cancer, that CFC's caused the hole in the ozone layer, and so on—into oblivion. Global warming denial seems to have climbed to a peak in 2010, and global warming acceptance is now climbing. This bodes well for rational public policy.

 
 

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Stillhere

Back to my question, what is the margin of error??????? Its RIGHT THERE on the Nassa site

Posted 217 days ago.

Stillhere

How does one rank three items that are a statistical tie?

Posted 217 days ago.

Stillhere

Harry is getting snarky lolol

Posted 217 days ago.

Stillhere

can be considered to be in a statistical tie

DO TELL ME HOW ONE IS WARMER IN A TIE?

Posted 217 days ago.

Stillhere

Well I guess you cannot back up your claim that 2014 was the warmest on record. OK my work is done for now

Posted 217 days ago.

harryanderson

Please learn how to read with understanding.

“The three warmest years in the GISTEMP analysis, 2014, 2010, and 2005 IN THAT ORDER, can be considered to be in a statistical tie because of several sources of uncertainty."(emphasis added)

Posted 217 days ago.

Stillhere

If the increase is .02 C and the margin of error is .1 c how can that be scientific proof of anything?

Posted 217 days ago.

harryanderson

I meant that last for ohwiseone, not stillhere.

Posted 217 days ago.

harryanderson

You're right, stillhere. No amount of scientific proof will be good enough for some. It never has been on any issue in history.

Posted 217 days ago.

Stillhere

Its right there on the NASSA site

Posted 217 days ago.

Stillhere

What is the margin of error for these reading Harry?

Posted 217 days ago.

Stillhere

The authors conclude, “The three warmest years in the GISTEMP analysis, 2014, 2010, and 2005 in that order, can be considered to be in a statistical tie because of several sources of uncertainty,

TELL US AGAIN HOW 2014 IS THE WARMEST ON RECORD???

Posted 217 days ago.

Ohwiseone

Serial liars and deniers Harry ! Does'nt matter what research you show , it wont be good enough !

Posted 217 days ago.

Stillhere

Hmmmmm gee Harry, you didn't back up your statement that 2014 was the warmest year on record at all. But nice try with what you got to work with.

Posted 217 days ago.

harryanderson

I was told to find my own source, and I did. I found the best one—the paper on which NASA based its press release. There is no controversy there.

The authors conclude, “The three warmest years in the GISTEMP analysis, 2014, 2010, and 2005 in that order, can be considered to be in a statistical tie because of several sources of uncertainty, the largest source being incomplete spatial coverage of the data. Similarly the next warmest years in our analysis, 1998, 2002, 2003, 2006, 2007, 2009 and 2013, can be taken as a statistical tie for the 4th through the 10th in our analysis. The 15 warmest years all occurred since 1998 .”

I don’t mind being transparent about my sources. Here it is. ht tp://ww w.columbia.edu/~jeh1/mailings/2015/20150116_Temperature2014.pdf

Posted 217 days ago.

Stillhere

Anyone that clings to the 97% distortion should know about cherry picking!

Posted 217 days ago.

Stillhere

Odd how anything that casts doubt on your view of global warming is "cherry picked", that's a vague but handy little way of trying to discredit facts you don't like.

Posted 217 days ago.

Stillhere

If you are not bright enough to find the quote I used by a simple copy and paste, I don't hold out much hope for you giving a very learned opinion.

Posted 217 days ago.

harryanderson

If you expect me to find my own source, I have an excellent one in mind. It comes from scientists.

I have a lot of work to do today. I'll try to get back this evening to check out your source or to give my opinion based on the scientific literature.

Posted 217 days ago.

harryanderson

You said we should be "reading the fine print." I'm willing to do so, if you'll say where the fine print can be found. I suspect your quote is cherry-picked. Your statements usually are.

Posted 217 days ago.
 
 
 
 

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