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3 days ago.
by Stillhere
harryanderson
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Thankfully, the anti-science propaganda campaign surrounding man-made climate change seems to have lost some of its effect.

Are you seeing storm clouds on the horizon? Two recent studies suggest that the latest anti-science campaign is following its forerunners--the propaganda campaigns attempting to refute science that tobacco causes cancer, that CFC's caused the hole in the ozone layer, and so on—into oblivion. Global warming denial seems to have climbed to a peak in 2010, and global warming acceptance is now climbing. This bodes well for rational public policy.

 
 

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Stillhere

whats the greater goal?

Could be continuing to profit from fossil fuels

Could be to make a fortune in "green" energy investments (think ALGORE HERE)

Could be to further slide into the BIG GOVT socialist system. (anti capitalism)

Could be all of the above

Posted 25 days ago.

Stillhere

To me the validity of climate change isn't all that important.

I think that's the problem in a nutshell, there are many that feel that way, the GREATER GOAL is whats important.

Posted 25 days ago.

Stillhere

I think I agree most with your statement that CO2 levels and Temps appear to go together, however, I don't think we really know if that's a leading or lagging indicator.

Posted 25 days ago.

Stillhere

Sorry MOD I cannot go there with you. Not saying anything you state is proven to be UNTRUE, I just don't know if we really understand the past as well as some might think

Posted 25 days ago.

moderation

Can we agree that the level of co2 in our atmosphere has a history that is recorded in ice accumulations at the poles? Can we agree that high levels of co2 have accompanied higher earth temperatures? Can we agree that co2 levels are the highest they have been in 1 million years?

Posted 25 days ago.

mythravere

But I don't see renewables as being able to completely take the weight of our energy needs. At least in the foreseeable future.

I also support nuclear energy. Just don't build it at sea level in a tsunami prone area.

Posted 26 days ago.

mythravere

I can easily agree with all of those.

I will also offer that this issue has gotten to the point where it is almost too toxic to deal with in any manner.

The only thing I think that needs to be answered is can anything be done about it. Stopping it that is.

As far as its validity. My feelings are that with a growing world population we are going to need how bunch of energy in the future. So taking care of that need will help with the issue of climate change. Sustainable energy is the key to both of those.

To me its killing two birds with one stone. To me the validity of climate change isn't all that important. Our energy needs though are very important and an all of the above approach is warranted.

Posted 26 days ago.

Stillhere

These are my questions

Posted 26 days ago.

Stillhere

Can we also agree that the hyperbolic BS serves NO ONE?

Posted 26 days ago.

Stillhere

Can we admit that politicians LIE and have but ONE concern, their own power>?

Posted 26 days ago.

Stillhere

Can we admit that we ALL want the same thing but disagree on how to get there>?

Posted 26 days ago.

Stillhere

Can we agree that there is a lot of money at stake, regardless of the side you are on?

Posted 26 days ago.

Stillhere

Can we recognize that NONE of us know a thing about it other than the sources we choose to read>?

Posted 26 days ago.

Stillhere

Can we concur that I am no less or no more intelligent than those that believe in Man made global warming?

Posted 26 days ago.

Stillhere

can we admit we live in a world of media hype about EVERYTHING, if it bleeds it leads>?

Posted 26 days ago.

Stillhere

Can we decided that there are agendas on BOTH sides of the debate?

Posted 26 days ago.

Stillhere

can we decide that doubt is NOT denial

Posted 26 days ago.

Stillhere

Can it be acknowledged that those that are skeptical are not in the employ of oil company PR operations?

Posted 26 days ago.

Stillhere

Wonder if we could talk about the subject at hand without the usual insult and dismissal

Posted 26 days ago.

mythravere

The grass in the field was wet so the son pretty much "water skied" behind the horse as it took off down the field.

Now from the time he threw the lasso to when the horse had him in tow was like 5 seconds at most.

I'd say he was pulled a good 60 to 70 feet until he was able to get his hand free.

That could have ended a lot worse than it did.

Man was that a sight.

Posted 27 days ago.
 
 
 
 

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