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4 days ago.
by mythravere
harryanderson
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Thankfully, the anti-science propaganda campaign surrounding man-made climate change seems to have lost some of its effect.

Are you seeing storm clouds on the horizon? Two recent studies suggest that the latest anti-science campaign is following its forerunners--the propaganda campaigns attempting to refute science that tobacco causes cancer, that CFC's caused the hole in the ozone layer, and so on—into oblivion. Global warming denial seems to have climbed to a peak in 2010, and global warming acceptance is now climbing. This bodes well for rational public policy.

 
 

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Tiredofit

Let me know when that is accomplished.

Posted 111 days ago.

Tiredofit

Be part of the solution Kendall, stop emitting co2.

Posted 111 days ago.

Tiredofit

Are you living by example Kendall? Do you eat meat there at chucky cheese with you little buddies and do you drive a car? Is your house (or mothers basement perhaps) heated with fossil fuels? How can you engage in those earth destroying activities? Lead by example and perhaps you will have some credibility.

Posted 111 days ago.

Kendall78

Ignoring your fascination with places where little kids are, I have stated facts. You are more than welcome to show how I am incorrect in my statements.

Posted 111 days ago.

Tiredofit

Still no proof just insult tossing from chucky cheese.

Posted 111 days ago.

Tiredofit

Case in point!

Posted 111 days ago.

Kendall78

"I am always amused at the tolerant left.."

Left or Right, some things should not be tolerated...in this case, your ignorance.

Posted 111 days ago.

Kendall78

In your four posts this morning, you have offered nothing to counter any of the science that has been offered on here. You write it off as faith while you stick your head in the sand.

Is it faith that the Earth's average temp is higher than it was 100 years ago? Is it faith that it's average is higher than 25 years ago?

Is it faith that we have put more carbon in the atmosphere than the natural carbon cycle can handle?

Sure climate changes without man's involvement but you hope beyond rational hope that man cannot effect it at any level at all.

Posted 111 days ago.

Kendall78

"What I said was there is no proof that co2.is causing anything but healthy plant growth but not climate change or global warming whatever term they are using today."

You said that incorrectly. What you should have said is that you would accept no proof that CO2 causes anything but healthy plant growth.

You have never addressed the Earth's carbon cycle and what it means when the dominant species throws more carbon out into the atmosphere than the carbon cycle can handle.

You have never offered any viable option to why the the planet is getting warmer.

You have never gave a reason why the planet is warmer than it was20-40 years ago.

Posted 111 days ago.

Tiredofit

I am always amused at the tolerant left and the absolute anger they spew while calling we on the right mean spirited and intolerant.

Posted 111 days ago.

Tiredofit

Do you, the faithful, still heat your home with carbon based fuel? Do you eat meat and drive a car? Lead by example before you try to impose your FAITH on the rest of us.

Posted 111 days ago.

Tiredofit

So as i laid you argument bare, if you wish now to claim that you have a belief or faith that co2 is warming the planet, fine I won't argue a matter of faith, just refrain from calling it a proven fact because it is NOT. myth I doubt you have any thought or question to "blow a hole" in the faith of millions.

Posted 111 days ago.

Tiredofit

Of course I never said lack of proof shows no warming, another lie. I feely admit the climate changes or we would be under a mile of ice right now. What I said was there is no proof that co2.is causing anything but healthy plant growth but not climate change or global warming whatever term they are using today.

Posted 111 days ago.

mythravere

I could if I wanted to get banned from posting on here point out something that blows a hole right in this notion of God the supreme creator.

Christians like to point out the complexity of various things like the eye in showing that a guiding hand had to be present in making something so complex.

Ok! If a person believes that then I got a question for them that points out something that for all intents and purposes looks like God has played a huge joke on us.

But it would be considered highly offensive if I would point that out.

Its an interesting dichotomy between something being seen as sacred but yet lying within that is something shockingly profane.

Its like an artist who's beautiful paintings hide within them atrocious images that makes one question the sanity of the painter.

Posted 111 days ago.

Tiredofit

Exactly, faith in God is just that, faith without proof. I freely admit I cannot prove there is a God, but I believe there is. In the famous words of mythy, " what if I'm right". To compare the two is inaccurate at best, as I don't try to CONVERT you nor suggest the govt should force you to go to church. Nice try. And MOD IF YOU INDEED ON THE SQUARE, YOU MUST HAVE A FAITH OR YOU LIED WHICH IS IT

Posted 111 days ago.

mythravere

So Tiredofit says there is no evidence to support climate change in his eyes.

There is no evidence to support the existence of God but yet be believes in that?

He requires proof for one thing and not another.

I'd call that a double standard.

Posted 111 days ago.

mythravere

Tiredofit demonstrates his hypocrisy rather well with that statement.

Tiredofit says the "lack" of evidence proves that there is not global warming.

He insinuates that those who do believe it are basing their beliefs on what others are saying and that those same people have made climate change a religion.

What Tiredofit fails to realize is that his logic can be turn against him.

There's no evidence to support the existence of a Christian god or any god for that matter. Belief in such a thing requires faith. Or in other words believing in something when there is nothing there to suggest that it is true.

You simply believe because you want to believe it.

Posted 111 days ago.

moderation

Tiredofit said, "I almost pity you Myth, if not for your arrogant ignorance I would.. What you fail to understand is that GOD is in charge of all things including the climate of the earth, not Govt nor man.Sad that you search for answers in the wrong place."

Posted 4 days ago. Can you prove this,tired?

Posted 111 days ago.

harryanderson

Tiredofit has some legitimate beefs. For instance: We in the US should resist losing our independence to the UN over this or any other issue. And some, especially radical enviros and politicians like Al Gore, have over-hyped the issue. And building climate models is an enormously complex task, so some errors have been made. But these concerns shouldn’t make us too fearful to act or tear each other down.

Despite these concerns, the basic science is irrefutable. Excess atmospheric CO2 prevents heat energy from radiating back into space. Relatively small energy changes may cause relatively drastic effects in a balanced system like Earth.

We need to accept climate science and figure out how we’re going to deal with it in a way that preserves our institutions and traditions. Like Exxon CEO Rex Tillerson said, “It’s an engineering problem with an engineering solution.”

Posted 112 days ago.

mythravere

No one can prove anything to Tiredofit when it comes to climate change and man's role in it.

His opinion is fixed on the issue and he will reject any proof laid on the table without any consideration.

Posted 112 days ago.
 
 
 
 

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