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6 hours ago.
by mythravere
harryanderson
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Thankfully, the anti-science propaganda campaign surrounding man-made climate change seems to have lost some of its effect.

Are you seeing storm clouds on the horizon? Two recent studies suggest that the latest anti-science campaign is following its forerunners--the propaganda campaigns attempting to refute science that tobacco causes cancer, that CFC's caused the hole in the ozone layer, and so on—into oblivion. Global warming denial seems to have climbed to a peak in 2010, and global warming acceptance is now climbing. This bodes well for rational public policy.

 
 

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Tiredofit

Reluctant to admit that it does not support your contention?

Posted 91 days ago.

Tiredofit

Was there any of the questions that addressed greenhouse gas?

Posted 91 days ago.

Tiredofit

Yes I am aware but the 97% claim was bases on number 2. I can post the rest of the questions if you like.

Posted 91 days ago.

harryanderson

I also suspect you didn't read the Doran study before posting. Otherwise you should have known the study contained “up to nine questions.”

Posted 91 days ago.

Tiredofit

Again I ask, how does this support your claim that 97% of scientists agree that greenhouse gas is changing climate?

Posted 91 days ago.

Tiredofit

I will concede that 75 of 77 self described climatologists answered yes to the second question of you concede that co2 nor any greenhouse gas was mentioned.

Posted 91 days ago.

harryanderson

Tiredofit, Sometimes I suspect you reply before reading my posts. Otherwise, you would have known that…

1. I didn’t cite a “cook study.”

2. I pointed out that you didn’t cite any study of climate researchers.

Posted 91 days ago.

Tiredofit

Care to enlighten we deniers how you made that leap?

Posted 91 days ago.

Tiredofit

How is that as you say an endorsement of your greenhouse theory?

Posted 91 days ago.

Tiredofit

Q1: “When compared with pre-1800s levels, do you think that mean global temperatures have generally risen, fallen, or remained relatively constant?”   76 of 79 (96.2%) answered “risen.”

Q2: “Do you think human activity is a significant contributing factor in changing mean global temperatures?”   75 of 77 (97.4%) answered “yes.” 

Posted 91 days ago.

Tiredofit

Where in the two questions of the Doran survey are greenhouse gases mentioned?

Posted 91 days ago.

Tiredofit

By the way you dismissed all the studies I mentioned. The Doran study boils down to 75 people that said yes to TWO questions neither of which mentioned CO2 and was back in 2009 correct?

Posted 91 days ago.

Tiredofit

The second study would be the cook study?

Posted 91 days ago.

harryanderson

I’ve cited 2 studies to support my contention that 97% of climate scientists agree greenhouse gases are altering the climate.

Tiredofit ignored the first.

He attacked the second on the irrelevant grounds that climate scientists are a relatively small subset of all scientists.

Here’s another study:

A 2010 study published by the National Academy of Sciences found that “97%-98% of the climate researchers most actively publishing in the field fully support the tenets of ACC outlined by the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change.”

htt p://ww w.pnas****/content/early/2010/06/04/1003187107.full.pdf+html

Posted 91 days ago.

mythravere

Sorry I must elaborate on Tireofit a little.

There have been loads of serious and honest questions sent his way.

He refuses the majority of them and for some reason likes to focus on the details that really don't matter on this issue.

When asked to explain the falseness of a simple high school science experiment he refused. Citing Bill Nye's fame as a reason for not being worthy of consideration.

LOL!

Posted 92 days ago.

mythravere

What I find funny is that they have a very simple way of making a counter argument.

And this shows its political and profit based for them.

They could argue that the earth is warming naturally and that we should be preparing ourselves for the changes coming down the pipe.

And fossil fuels are the answer because we will need lots of energy to combat the changes and adjust our civilization to a changing climate.

Simple and concise with profitability intact.

Why aren't they saying that?

Posted 92 days ago.

mythravere

Here's the kicker in all of this for me personally.

All this arguing about polls and other crap.

Whats the point?

There is physical evidence out there that supports what the scientists are saying.

There are changes taking place that can not be totally laid at the feet of natural causes.

Posted 92 days ago.

mythravere

Kind of hard to debate an issue with someone like that isn't it?

But thats on of the key missions of those who do not want to see this world shifted to renewable energy.

So they use their propaganda to influence folks like Tiredofit to go forth and muck up the process.

You have got to hand it to them. They got a full fledged top to bottom process going on.

Posted 92 days ago.

mythravere

Everyone I appeal to you to ask yourselves this.

Why would someone who thinks they know the truth refuse to share that truth?

Whats interesting is the logic about Tiredofits crusade on here.

Global warming is viewed by him as a leftist/socialist cause. He can't resist that cause any other way but the way he is. Saying no just wouldn't work.

No he calls everything about it into doubt.

When tasked with explaining his position he flat out will not do so.

Rather shady of him to say that we must prove what we are saying but he has to do no such thing.

Posted 92 days ago.

mythravere

This issue and many others like it. Get labeled as a leftist cause. So you guys dig in and resist it.

The facts get laid out..you guys reject them..without providing any reason why....you say no no no no no no no.

Its all one big political game of us versus them.

Posted 92 days ago.
 
 
 
 

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