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by Ohwiseone
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Thankfully, the anti-science propaganda campaign surrounding man-made climate change seems to have lost some of its effect.

Are you seeing storm clouds on the horizon? Two recent studies suggest that the latest anti-science campaign is following its forerunners--the propaganda campaigns attempting to refute science that tobacco causes cancer, that CFC's caused the hole in the ozone layer, and so on—into oblivion. Global warming denial seems to have climbed to a peak in 2010, and global warming acceptance is now climbing. This bodes well for rational public policy.

 
 

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mythravere

In all actuality I am not criticising him. In fact I agree with him in that pressure can be applied to scientists. I just don't automatically assume that the pressure has affected the whole group of climate scientists. You on the other hand do.

We have taken billions of tons of carbon and moved it from the ground and put it into the atmosphere.

That will affect our atmosphere and the climate along with it.

Is it going to be as bad as they say. I really don't know.

What I do know is that the earths population is growing exponentially.

Thats a lot of mouths to feed and society is going to need every increasing amounts of energy to service the needs of those people.

Fossil fuels are finite. Sure we may have large amounts of it left...but fossil fuels are prone to volatility in prices and availability especially in the case of oil.

A diverse energy portfolio is in my opinion key to dealing with humanities needs in the future.

Posted 29 days ago.

mythravere

Did you not ask us to tell you that you DIDN'T have a valid point? :)

Posted 29 days ago.

mythravere

"There will be breaks in the warming at times.

Hmmm. If co2 is the cause and it continues to rise, why would there be "breaks". at times?"

Sorry to clarify. There really isn't a break in the warming but a shifting of the warming from atmospheric to oceanic warming. Because of those currents that he mentioned.

Posted 29 days ago.

mythravere

Well there you go appealing to authority.

Well if he's right. What natural processes are causing phenomenon that are indicative of a warming atmosphere?

If its not man then what is it?

Posted 29 days ago.

mythravere

You don't have a valid point.

Posted 29 days ago.

Ohwiseone

Empirical evidence that humans are causing global warming

www dot skepticalscience dot com/empirical-evidence-for-glob.

Posted 29 days ago.

Ohwiseone

Politifact : Tampa Bay Times ~~~~~~~~10 fact-checks about climate change

By Angie Drobnic Holan on Tuesday, September 23rd, 2014 at 12:48 p.m. Makes for interesting reading !

Posted 29 days ago.

Ohwiseone

351 pages of inane bullsh*t ! The troll just cant get enough !

Posted 29 days ago.

Ohwiseone

The troll is hungry but if you don't feed it maybe it will just go away !More attempts to bury everything in bullsh^t !

Posted 30 days ago.

mythravere

As far as the action goes on combating this issue.

Personally I don't know if making a massive switch off of fossil fuels is a good thing.

The reason is simple. Massive public works may have to be undertaken in the event the sea levels do rise and threaten our coasts. Or excessive drought threatens our bread basket.

Posted 30 days ago.

mythravere

But back to meat of the argument. We know the planet is warming. We know that the rise in temperatures will not be a constant thing. There will be breaks in the warming at times.

If man doesn't have any influence on this warming and is not the cause. The planet is still warming and the climate is still changing.

We have a decent understanding of what's coming down the pipe.

Sea level rise is going to be a big issue in the coming decades. Don't you think it prudent to champion preparation for something like that rather than just sitting back...calling it all a hoax and sitting on your rear end and doing nothing?

The planet is warming. There's no denying it. Pause or no pause.

Posted 30 days ago.

mythravere

And time and again you always touch back on the notion the those who support the idea that man has an influence on our climate is pushing a socialist agenda.

Which no one is.

I for one do not support the notion that you have attributed to me in stating that I believe the government should take over all energy assets.

Posted 30 days ago.

mythravere

Because thats the underlying gist of your crusade on here.

You versus the ones you suspect/assume are socialists.

Remember you said it yourself this isn't a science debate but a political debate.

Posted 30 days ago.

mythravere

"All political campaigns play on fear and emotion."

Aaah but I presume that the political campaigns that influence you operate without the use of fear and emotion?

You can say no political sources influence you but I would have to call bs on that.

After who tells you the socialists are a problem?

If no one has informed you have you first hand knowledge that socialists are causing all of this?

Have you caught socialists in the act yourself?

Posted 30 days ago.

Ohwiseone

The troll is hungry but if you don't feed it maybe it will just go away !More attempts to bury everything in bullsh^t !

Posted 30 days ago.

mythravere

So according to you Tiredofit man has no role in climate change.

Ok.

Have you ever wondered why they picked climate change as thee issue with which to grab all this control?

Posted 30 days ago.

mythravere

"You cannot make a case for man made global warming so now you move to a supply issue as your reason. "

Are your really that f ucking stupid?

I am not using supply as a reason. I'm just wondering why they picked climate change to hoax and not something like fossil fuel scarcity which does have an immediate effect on people when the prices increase.

I am not switching reasons. God dam.

Posted 30 days ago.

mythravere

I'll tell you what. I'll play your game.

Lets say mans influence on climate is a cooked up thing,a hoax. Who's supporting data is completely fake.

Why the climate and not something else?

There has to be a reason they picked the climate to be their lynchpin?

Whats that reason.

Posted 30 days ago.

mythravere

"You just get dumber, ever heard of the Marcellus shale and Utica shale BOOM happening all around you lol"

Hello where have the biggest and most historical increases in fossil fuels been in the past 10 years?

Oil. I don't see this nation converting all of our ground based transportation needs to gas anytime soon so thats moot.

Oil is a whole nother beast. It runs the world.

Posted 30 days ago.

mythravere

" a way of organizing a society in which major industries are owned and controlled by the government rather than by individual people and companies"

Also when you speak of this...I think you have it the wrong way around.

Individual people and companies own the government.

Posted 30 days ago.
 
 
 
 

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