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5 days ago.
by mythravere
harryanderson
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Thankfully, the anti-science propaganda campaign surrounding man-made climate change seems to have lost some of its effect.

Are you seeing storm clouds on the horizon? Two recent studies suggest that the latest anti-science campaign is following its forerunners--the propaganda campaigns attempting to refute science that tobacco causes cancer, that CFC's caused the hole in the ozone layer, and so on—into oblivion. Global warming denial seems to have climbed to a peak in 2010, and global warming acceptance is now climbing. This bodes well for rational public policy.

 
 

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harryanderson

Tiredofit,

There's a world of scientific proof that CO2, added to an environment surrounded by a gas, traps heat from escaping.

You refuse to accept that proof. Mythravere even suggested a simple experiment you could perform at home. You discounted it.

Nothing will ever convince you. Nevertheless, you serve a useful purpose here, and I thank you for your comments.

Posted 84 days ago.

Tiredofit

I appreciate climate change and global warming or we would be under a mile or so of ice. Perhaps you would prefer living like an Eskimo cannot say. Anyways enjoy the wonderful hot day before the rain sets in, I am going to plant my garden and let it turn CO2 into delicious beans and tomatoes. Mmmmm good.

Posted 84 days ago.

Tiredofit

Scientific fact can be demonstrated challanged and proven time after time. This falls quite short of the mark.

Posted 84 days ago.

Tiredofit

Yet in your arrogant mind, you have the answers but I would submit, you have not asked the right questions, and you never will.

Posted 84 days ago.

Tiredofit

It's not up to me to explain why the glaciers melted from where you currently sit, I don't know nor do you, however I do know that climate changed over time on it's own accord. That's a long way from you blaming a non pollutant trace gas whithout a shred of evidence to support it.

Posted 84 days ago.

Tiredofit

Sadly you keep referring to it as science which it clearly is NOT. Correlation does not equal causation and that is where you go astray. There is not a single shred of scientific proof that co2 causes a change in climate. The models are guesses which have failed to come to fruition time and again.

Posted 84 days ago.

Kendall78

" you might have some credibility."

You mean like offering a scientific alternative to Global Warming other that CO2 emissions?

Well please Tired, offer up something to give yourself some credibility. It would be a nice change of pace for you.

Posted 84 days ago.

Tiredofit

I see you are chosing the latter.

Posted 84 days ago.

harryanderson

"Turn off you computers sell your car, stick solar panels on your home's and stop breathing. When you have done this, you might have some credibility."

To accept the science and have an impact, Tiredofit, one doesn't need to become a hermit off-grid Luddite up some remote holler.

Reasonable people should avoid extremist views.

Posted 84 days ago.

Tiredofit

Lead by example or be a hypocrite. If we want to cut emissions of co2. Let the 30% who believe it to be a pollutant stop emitting it. Turn off you computers sell your car, stick solar panels on your home's and stop breathing. When you have done this, you might have some credibility.

Posted 84 days ago.

mythravere

And I believe this will happen even sooner if they happen to win the next presidency or gain control of the senate.

Correction.

Posted 85 days ago.

mythravere

In all honesty I am looking for the right to become more and more irrelevant.

Well let me elaborate. The extreme right. The hardliners. The ones the are contentious as all get out.

And I believe this will happen even sooner if they happen to win the next presidency or gain control of the house.

Because on those people start putting policies on the books people are going to see first hand how out of touch they are.

Just a matter of time until those folks meets their reckoning.

Posted 85 days ago.

mythravere

As we march along and nothing is done about the issue of climate change the Republicans are setting themselves up for a great fall to come.

One the effects of climate change starts really affecting people's lives guess who those people are going to blame?

The ones who do not believe it is real and want no action take on it.

Posted 85 days ago.

Kendall78

Very nicely written and he is quite right.

Posted 85 days ago.

harryanderson

Former Republican Presidential candidate Jon Huntsman wrote in a NY Times op-ed yesterday.

"So obtuse has become the party’s dialogue on climate change that it’s now been reduced to believing or not believing, as if it were a religious mantra.

"This approach reached a new low last month during a North Carolina congressional debate at which all the Republican candidates chuckled at a question on climate change — as if they had been asked about their belief in the Tooth Fairy. Is climate change a fact, they were asked. All four answered no. This is a shortsighted strategy that is wrong for the party, wrong for the country and wrong for the next generation. It simply kicks a big problem farther down the field. And it’s a problem we — as solution-seeking Republicans — have the opportunity to solve."

Posted 85 days ago.

harryanderson

What is the difference between "to win an election" and "to not lose an election"?

Posted 85 days ago.

Kendall78

Nope, just based on the behavior you exhibit on here. I suggest you change your behavior.

Posted 85 days ago.

Tiredofit

Yep opinion, not based on any facts, should have known.

Posted 85 days ago.

Kendall78

Since "nuts" was an opinion and not a diagnosis, I'll forgive you for your error.

But even you should be able to see that the majority of Americans do not base their votes on global warming. If that was the case then the Far Right would dominate Congress since most Ameericans do not see the worry in global warming.

Posted 85 days ago.

Kendall78

"on your side"

What side is that? I vote primarily Republican.

But if you are mistaken into thinking I am a Dem or liberal, the fact is that it is highly doubtful that they will lose much of their power in Congress. From what it seems like at the moment, the division of power between the Republicans and Democrats will probably end up being more even with niether having a stranglhold on the power.

Posted 85 days ago.
 
 
 
 

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