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by mythravere
harryanderson
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Thankfully, the anti-science propaganda campaign surrounding man-made climate change seems to have lost some of its effect.

Are you seeing storm clouds on the horizon? Two recent studies suggest that the latest anti-science campaign is following its forerunners--the propaganda campaigns attempting to refute science that tobacco causes cancer, that CFC's caused the hole in the ozone layer, and so on—into oblivion. Global warming denial seems to have climbed to a peak in 2010, and global warming acceptance is now climbing. This bodes well for rational public policy.

 
 

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mythravere

Oh and I hate to point this out again. Stillhere formerly known as Tiredofit it got banned on this site and the Marietta Times site.

It takes a certain amount of bitterness to post in a manner that gets you banned. Just sayin.

Posted 58 days ago.

mythravere

"The level of bitterness they bring is quite clear but a rational person would have to wonder why."

LOL! Really? This from the guy who repeatedly calls out people as socialists when they plainly state they are not. This from the guy who repeatedly stated that those who believe in the validity of this issue are wanting to see the government take over the energy industry? Even after we said we do not support such actions.

THIS from the guy who on the Marrietta Times forum resorted to calling another poster a fluffer?

This from the guy who made fun of and used against me a math disability I stated I had. Repeatedly using the term shortbus.

Really? LOL! Such hypocrisy.

Posted 58 days ago.

mythravere

"And they ARE socialists, some like Myth are just not bright enough to realize the ultimate end to their goals." Stillhere

There you go falsely equating me with a political movement I do not subscribe to.

But I do understand why you do that.

Its a doubt casting tactic.

All that does is show that this issue and your disagreement with it is of a political nature.

After all why would you point out (falsely) the political leanings of people if it was just about the facts of the issue itself?

Posted 58 days ago.

mythravere

LOL! Then you claim as you have before that our interest in this issue has reached the level of religion.

Well the same can be said about you.

This crusade is so important to you that you just had to come back after getting banned.

Posted 58 days ago.

mythravere

"Perhaps that explains the visceral reaction by posters on this forum NO?" Stillhere.

Oh goodness lol!

If anyone is having a visceral reaction its you buckwheat.

All one has to do is to look at how you debate.

I mean it wasn't I who got banned off of two sites because of my behaviour.

That was you. And here you are back under another username doing the same things that got you booted before.

Posted 58 days ago.

Stillhere

“Global Warming has become a religion,” writes Lindzen. “A surprisingly large number of people seem to have concluded that all that gives meaning to their lives is the belief that they are saving the planet by paying attention to their carbon footprint.”

Perhaps that explains the visceral reaction by posters on this forum NO?

Posted 59 days ago.

Stillhere

Lindzen compares global warming to past politicized scientific movements: the eugenics movement in the early 20th Century and Lysenkoism in the Soviet Union under Stalin. However, the MIT professor argues that global warming goes even beyond what these past movements in terms of twisting science.

“Global Warming has become a religion,” writes Lindzen. “A surprisingly large number of people seem to have concluded that all that gives meaning to their lives is the belief that they are saving the planet by paying attention to their carbon footprint.”

Posted 59 days ago.

Stillhere

Yes MORE FUNDING

Posted 59 days ago.

Stillhere

According to Lindzen, scientists make essentially “meaningless” claims about certain phenomenon. Activists for certain causes take up claims made by scientists and politicians respond to the alarmism spread by activists by doling out more research funding. — creating an “Iron Triangle” of poor incentives.

“How can one escape from the Iron Triangle when it produces flawed science that is immensely influential and is forcing catastrophic public policy?” Lindzen asks.

Posted 59 days ago.

Stillhere

A political agenda? Dr Lindzen agrees

Throughout history, governments have twisted science to suit a political agenda. Global warming is no different, according to Dr. Richard Lindzen of the Massachusetts Institute of Technology.

“Global climate alarmism has been costly to society, and it has the potential to be vastly more costly. It has also been damaging to science, as scientists adjust both data and even theory to accommodate politically correct positions,” writes Lindzen in the fall 2013 issue of the Journal of American Physicians and Surgeons.

Posted 59 days ago.

Stillhere

Dr. Richard Lindzen of MIT speaks at EIKE in Germany on Models vs. Measurements in April 2014, the video was just recently made available on YouTube.

His conclusion: Real science in any case it is not what many climate modelers present as science. It’s more a kind of religion.

Yes DR LINDZEN like a religion

Posted 59 days ago.

Stillhere

I will close with this from MIT Climatologist Richard Lindzen

“I think that the latest IPCC report has truly sunk to level of hilarious incoherence,” Dr. Richard Lindzen told Climate Depot, a global warming skeptic news site. “They are proclaiming increased confidence in their models as the discrepancies between their models and observations increase.”

The IPCC (Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change) claimed it was 95 percent sure that global warming was mainly driven by human burning of fossil fuels that produce greenhouse gases.

The I.P.C.C. also glossed over the fact that the Earth has not warmed in the past 15 years, arguing that the heat was absorbed by the ocean.

“Their excuse for the absence of warming over the past 17 years is that the heat is hiding in the deep ocean,” Lindzen added. “However, this is simply an admission that the models fail to simulate the exchanges of heat between the surface layers and the deeper oceans.”

Posted 59 days ago.

Stillhere

I suppose they think they are just more enlightened than we knuckle dragging doubters. Its not like I make my living from fossil fuels but somehow I am in the pocket of big oil or coal lol. They just cannot understand how people can look around and realize HEY its NOT warmer as a matter of fact its been a lot cooler as of late. Oh I guess we are just knuckle draggers

Posted 59 days ago.

Stillhere

the theories are FLAWED, its obvious but you cannot have a debate with those that are convinced they are right despite the evidence.

Posted 59 days ago.

Stillhere

There is AMPLE evidence that the theories of the warmers is not correct but yet they cling to them like a religious doctrine and ultimately that is JUST what THEY are.

Posted 59 days ago.

Stillhere

I am always amazed at how they can be so convinced of something that is unproven even by those that advocate it. Its very personal with these types, and I have yet to put my finger on why. The level of bitterness they bring is quite clear but a rational person would have to wonder why.

Posted 59 days ago.

Stillhere

And they ARE socialists, some like Myth are just not bright enough to realize the ultimate end to their goals.

Posted 59 days ago.

Stillhere

The failed models and predictions are catching up to them, the artic was supposed to be ice free by now or have you forgotten> They really are desperate and getting nastier by the day as the plan falls apart. The American people don't care about their phony crisis despite the daily media blitz. That must really stink for the socialist warmers

Posted 59 days ago.

Stillhere

Notice the snark , oh Harry, the veneer is coming off.

Posted 59 days ago.

Stillhere

And HARRY as you are a slave to science why do you DENY the origins of man when it suits you>??? later

Posted 59 days ago.
 
 
 
 

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