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98 days ago.
by slinky
harryanderson
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Thankfully, the anti-science propaganda campaign surrounding man-made climate change seems to have lost some of its effect.

Are you seeing storm clouds on the horizon? Two recent studies suggest that the latest anti-science campaign is following its forerunners--the propaganda campaigns attempting to refute science that tobacco causes cancer, that CFC's caused the hole in the ozone layer, and so on—into oblivion. Global warming denial seems to have climbed to a peak in 2010, and global warming acceptance is now climbing. This bodes well for rational public policy.

 
 

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harryanderson

So, Tiredofit,

Do you accept that CO2 is a greenhouse gas? Will you dare to answer the question this time?

I'm betting you won't.

Posted 645 days ago.

harryanderson

“Essentially everybody agrees.,” including Lindzen.

Oops. There’s more.

, “Dr. Lindzen accepts the elementary tenets of climate science. He agrees that carbon dioxide is a greenhouse gas, calling people who dispute that point ‘nutty.’”

htt p://ww w.nytimes.co m/2012/05/01/science/earth/clouds-effect-on-climate-change-is-last-bastion-for-dissenters.html?pagewanted=3&_r=0

Posted 645 days ago.

harryanderson

And does Lindzen believe CO2 is a greenhouse gas. Absolutely.

“The burning of oil, gas, and especially coal pumps carbon dioxide and other gases into the atmosphere, where they allow the sun’s heat to penetrate to the Earth’s surface but impede its escape, thus causing the lower atmosphere and the Earth’s surface to warm. Essentially everybody, Lindzen included, agrees.”

htt p://ww w.weeklystandard.co m/articles/what-catastrophe_773268.html?page=1

Essentially everybody agrees.

And this comes from the conservative Weekly Standard

Posted 645 days ago.

harryanderson

Every time I check one of Tiredofit's sources I find the rest of the story he doesn't want you to know.

About that "noted geologist," from the website of his organization.

"Leighton Steward is a geologist, environmentalist, author, and retired energy industry executive."

ht tp://ww w.plantsneedco2.o rg/default.aspx?MenuItemID=294

Steward doesn't claim to be a climate scientist. He's a geologist who specializes in finding fossil fuels and selling them.

I consider him biased.

About that "author" part. "Sugar Busters" is a diet book.

Posted 645 days ago.

harryanderson

That's 9-0.

BTW: Have you ever found a climate scientist who denies that CO2 is a greenhouse gas?

Posted 645 days ago.

harryanderson

Tiredofit again posts proof that the earth is warming. He posted,, "finally, in attributing warming to man, they fail to point out that the warming has been small, and totally consistent with there being nothing to be alarmed about."

Yes, there has been warming. And yes, the scientists agree it's been relatively small so far.

It's the future they're worried about.

Thanks again for providing evidence that CO2 is a greenhouse gas.

Posted 645 days ago.

harryanderson

Tiredofit, I apologize for my last post, the one about the horse that brays like a donkey.

It was indecorous and inconsistent with civilized discourse.

Posted 645 days ago.

mythravere

Yes it is...you go get'em tiger!

Posted 645 days ago.

mythravere

Oh I know what he's doing. He's taking a play out of RIKA8 or whatever's playbook.

If you can't beat'em with your own words..use somebody else's.

Posted 645 days ago.

mythravere

There is a silver lining to Tiredofit mindlessly posting copy pastes of material that is on other websites.

A quick google of those posts reveals were Tiredofit likes to get his info.

And apparently its the bottom of the barrel. LOL!

Posted 645 days ago.

mythravere

Hey Tired are you also in the camp that says the moon landings were fake?

Hows about them chemtrails?

Posted 645 days ago.

mythravere

LOL! Its hilarious that Tiredofit is digging stuff up that is running around on conspiracy websites.

I mean this NASA stuff. LOL! Alex Jones has it on his site.

Posted 645 days ago.

harryanderson

An old man named Whizzer Shelby over near Maysville kept horses in a field of lush bluegrass. He’d fenced off one corner of his field, making a separate enclosure, inside which a single horse ran around in circles and, nose in air, brayed GEE—GAWK! GEE--GAWK! He had trampled all the grass down in his corner.

One day Whizzer’s cousin from Falmouth dropped by. “Whizzer,” he said. “That horse sounds like a ******* on locoweed. Whyn’t you put him with the other horses where the good grass is so he’ll quit complainin’?

“That ain’t no complaint,” Whizzer explained. “That’s his howl of triumph. When he gets over with the others, he don’t eat. He just brays and bumps them so they cain’t eat. When I put him here, he thinks he’s won something. You’re listenin’ to his victory cry.”

The cousin scratched his head. “Must be part of that counter climate change bunch.”

Posted 645 days ago.

mythravere

See? Perfect example.

Posted 645 days ago.

mythravere

And another thing Ohwiseone. All these posts that Tiredofit is bombing this forum with. It is literally him trying to get one of us to bite.

He doesn't care about this issue. He's just a rabble-rouser.

Rabble-rouser: a person who speaks with the intention of inflaming the emotions of a crowd of people, typically for political reasons.

Posted 645 days ago.

mythravere

Ohwiseone listen. When Tiredofit rejects all the facts we lay on the table. The truthfulness of which doesn't matter all. And then claims that we haven't provided any proof...then asks for more proof.

Its a game. Its a game he uses to cast doubt. Its real easy for him to do what he is doing. We know its pointless to try prove our positions to him. He knows this also and uses our refusal to "debate" with him against us.

Thats also why he goes about posting loads of unattributed posts all the while making claims we haven't provided any proof. It covers up the posts we have made and makes him look like the king of the mountain.

Posted 645 days ago.

moderation

We do know than the healing of the ozone layer cannot be accurately determined because of the continuing accumulation of greenhouse gases.You do concede that process, don't you,tired?

Posted 645 days ago.

mythravere

Aaah. He's trolling. Trying to stir the pot.

Strange that a grown man would seek attention by fomenting confrontation.

I knew this guy and everytime he wanted to stir the pot and get people riled up he'd start off with this comment 'now I aint trying to start nothin but...'.

Seems to me that O'l Tiredofit...aint trying to start nothin.

Posted 645 days ago.

harryanderson

You don't proof.

Posted 646 days ago.

mythravere

Looks like someone is in bury the other comments mode.

Posted 646 days ago.
 
 
 
 

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