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15 days ago.
by Ohwiseone
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Who Lied About the Attack on 9/11/12?

It is incredible that democrats keep blathering about Romney lying, when we have the shock and disgust of seeing the president and his administration lying to us about the security of Americans. Unbelievable .

 
 

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I think the current process is destroying America Harry. You have to satisfy the base, extremist on both sides to win a primary. The candidate is pandering to ~25% of the registered party and end up making statements you spend months trying to defend. Yeah, it's broken.

Posted 480 days ago.

Can't independents and other parties have candidates? What was Ross Perot?

Romney was an honest and competent candidate. What we need is honest and fair media coverage. Not Benghazi type cover ups.

Posted 480 days ago.

Betsy's gem of the day is saying Christians and muslims are alike. Yeah Sharia law is like the laws Christians obey. You betcha.

Sharia : • " Theft is punishable by amputation of the right hand (above). • Criticizing or denying any part of the Quran is punishable by death. • Criticizing or denying Muhammad is a prophet is punishable by death.

• A non-Muslim man who marries a Muslim woman is punishable by death. • A man can marry an infant girl and consummate the marriage when she is 9 years old. • A woman can have 1 husband, but a man can have up to 4 wives; Muhammad can have more. • A man can unilaterally divorce his wife, but a woman needs her husband's consent to divorce. • A man can beat his wife for insubordination. • Testimonies of four male witnesses are required to prove rape." Etc etc.

Posted 480 days ago.

harryanderson

Maybe you're right. Is it fair to say that we both find the current process destructive?

Posted 480 days ago.

I've been a registered independent for over a decade Harry. I don't share your optimism because I’ve seen good people on the local and state level put back in their place for not supporting the agenda of the two established parties.

Too many times, the rules are such that if you don’t have enough money or support from the parties, you don’t move forward. That’s simply how it is and as much as Republicans and Democrats dislike each other, they’re in agreement in retaining a 2 party system.

Posted 480 days ago.

harryanderson

At least I'm hoping. We have to stop tearing ourselves apart or perish.

Posted 480 days ago.

harryanderson

And, as I pointed out before, the 2 parties have entrenched themselves so deeply in the process that independents will have to be very assertive, even should they become a majority.

If independents grow larger and vote more effectively, I’d guess that the 2 major parties will move away from their recent highly partisan stances

Posted 480 days ago.

harryanderson

That's true for now because independents have not yet demanded candidates who reflect their views. Maybe independents aren't naturally hysterical and loud, so they're not the squeaky wheels who get the grease.

Here's hoping that truth-seekers and reasonable people will begin to assert themselves.

Posted 480 days ago.

It doesn't matter how many people register Independents if Republicans and Democrats supply the Candidates?

Posted 480 days ago.

harryanderson

House rules perpetuate the power of the majority. Here’s what we’re paying for: a House Oversight Committee that refuses to investigate malfeasance when the President belongs to the same party that controls the House, but conducts a permanent witch hunt when the President belongs to the party that doesn’t control the House.

Since Congressional rules freeze even large minorities out of the rulemaking process, lone independent Congresspeople confront an insurmountable mountain blocking their path to legislation .

It’s wrong. Is it any wonder that people have no confidence in Congress and that independent-minded voters are deserting the 2 parties in droves?

But I have hope that the American people will wake up, vote independently, drive these power-mad parties out of Congress, and institute more reasonable rules.

Posted 480 days ago.

harryanderson

I feel the same way as Aaron—the two parties are driving Americans apart. I don’t, however, think we need a “viable third party” to solve the problem. I think voters have begun addressing this problem by deserting the two parties and registering as independents.

However, the two entrenched parties have powerful weapons to keep their power. They have extensive fundraising networks, for example.

The most egregious power grab, in my opinion, results from Congressional rules that give the majority party complete control over the agenda, particularly in the House.

This past week, we witnessed a House leader’s unconscionable use of “majority rule” to promote a partisan agenda. House Oversight Committee Darrell Issa is making good on his 2010 promise to tie up Administration by using the subpoena power.

Issa abuses his power, just like his predecessors. Henry Waxman did it to Bush, and Dan Burton did it to Clinton.

Posted 480 days ago.

mythravere

I agree with that observation.

Posted 480 days ago.

I understand your point Ithink but not all of our founders believed in the party system. Washington lobbied hard against it as he believed it would be divide the nation, which it has. I don't have a problem with political parties, my problem is with the control the two parties possess. Extreme radicals control both parties so there's no way a person representing the interest of 60% of Americans can get elected. If a viable 3rd party does not evolve soon, I can see a fracture in this country.

Posted 480 days ago.

I don't think you're a charlatan myth, I stated that about our President. And the only thing I'm rooting for here is the truth, which is starting to come out as the report by ABC news yesterday morning shows. This administration is knee deep in lies and cover-ups that will see the light of day. Just as Nixon, Reagan and Clinton learned, if you tell a lie, sooner or later it will see the light of day.

As for your deep seated anger, you've made far too many comments for me to believe anything less.

Posted 480 days ago.

The founders ofour country belived in political parties. And if the main goal of our country is "change", we are in a bad way. We have a great and free country, and all we hear from the left, is stupid change.

Why do immigrants come here in droves? Many come to change us, and make us miserable like they are. And those famous women's rights that are going to be wiped away by republicans? Just wait until the muslims get to be in charge, as they plan.

Yes,, this woman republican is concerned.

Posted 480 days ago.

mythravere

Oh I have no deep seated anger. Lol. Its more of a disgust that's taken root. And I am quite rational thank you.

You I think are a charlatan. After all anyone who labels themselves of any particular political disposition isn't really in the game to effect any sort of change.

You're just rooting for a team is all.

Posted 480 days ago.

State Department officials pressed for changes in the talking points that U.N. Ambasspador Susan Rice used after the deadly attack on the U.S. diplomatic mission in Libya last September, expressing concerns that Congress might criticize the Obama administration for ignoring warnings of a growing threat in Benghazi.

Posted 481 days ago.

Isn't that what you cried about for 8 years of Bush Myth!!!!!

I see that deep seated anger is still eating at you, to the point that you're not rational.

Posted 481 days ago.

mythravere

Impeach Obama! Gitonoutaheuh boy!

Posted 481 days ago.

“After all they wouldn't have had to do anything. In fact that is exactly what they did do. Even though they had intel that something was coming…”

How many Presidents can you say that about? Wilson, FDR, LBJ? Yes to all three of those. In fact, each not only know what was coming down the pike, all 3 hid it from the American public, doing everything they could behind the scenes to draw the US into war including provoking the enemy and outright lying to the American public. Seems we have a long history of American Presidents who don’t have the courage to take their case to the American public.

That still doesn’t change the fact that on Benghazi, Obama got caught with his pants on fire and you’re still excusing him while criticizing Bush.

Interesting.

Posted 481 days ago.
 
 
 
 

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