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A thousand jobs could be lost in the MOV

By JUSTIN McINTOSH, Special to The News
POSTED: January 10, 2009

MARIETTA - The economic downturn has finally hit the Mid-Ohio Valley and before it's over a thousand jobs could be lost, according to one area official.

"We're not going to lose tens of thousands like the big metropolitan areas, but we'll lose a thousand," Marietta Area Chamber of Commerce President Charlotte Keim said. "There's more coming. We need to be realistic."

"If you listen carefully, you're already hearing people saying we're not as busy as we were," she continued. "The requests for bids on jobs is slowing down. This isn't the end of it unfortunately. I wish it were. But we will get through this."

For months, elected officials, business leaders and economic development officials have cited the area's low unemployment rate (5.5 percent in November) compared to the rest of the state and country as evidence that dire financial times hadn't hit here yet.

The Mid-Ohio Valley, they said, was insulated from the rest of the country because of its location. Thursday's news that Eramet was laying off 110 people, bringing the total number of area job losses announced or carried out in the last month to nearly 300, brought home to many the reality they've seen on the nightly news over the last several months.

"The insulation has worn out. We are now feeling the effects of the global recession," said Mike Jacoby, executive director of the Southeast Ohio Port Authority, Washington County's main economic development engine.

"Anyone who had a connection to these industries knew it was a matter of time. But I think some people were also hoping we would have hit bottom a couple of months ago and started climbing back," he said.

Belpre resident Delmar Osburn, a DuPont retiree, doesn't expect that climb to be quick.

"I don't think things are going to get better fast, and how long it takes to recover will make a difference in a lot of people's lives," he said.

Osburn believes unfair overseas competition has played a role in creating the current economic climate.

"We've shipped so many good jobs overseas...," he said. "When I first heard about the global economy, some 20 years ago, helping to bring other countries up to standard was supposed to be a good thing.

"But I don't think we envisioned this," Osburn said.

Whether the Mid-Ohio Valley will be as late to recover from the recession as it was to feel the downturn's effects was something Jacoby wasn't comfortable answering. But he was sure the recent developments are only part of an historical cycle.

Jacoby said the bright side in these developments is that just as that cycle brings inevitable lows, there are times of prosperity, too.

"Most of these companies are very familiar with this business cycle, so they understand there are going to be times where there's nothing you can do because your customers are no longer placing orders and the price of your product is dropping. So you just weather the storm," he said. "There'll be a time when demand comes back. We're going to hope there are good times ahead. When that's going to be, I don't know."

On the other side of that spectrum, though, Jacoby said he wasn't sure how low this cycle will bring the region.

"I don't think anybody knows where the bottom is. We may have hit bottom, but who knows. There's a lot of uncertainty out there," he said.

Mark Wurtzbacher, president of United Steelworkers Local 14200-1, is not optimistic about employment prospects in the area. He is among 60 workers who will be laid off from Eramet neighbor Americas Styrenics beginning in March.

"Even if you have connections, no matter where you call in the Mid-Ohio Valley, they already have a hiring freeze or ... layoffs," Wurtzbacher said. "I see nothing in the future to make me think anything positive's happening in this area."

A year from now, Wurtzbacher expects to hear people saying they were lucky to find jobs that pay half of what their previous jobs did. He said he will have to contemplate making adjustments to deal with a significant pay cut or leaving the area.

"There are no jobs to replace the ones that they're losing," he said.

To help the area recover from the recession, Jacoby recommends adjusting perspectives.

"The economy is really dependent upon people's beliefs about what the future is," he said. "There is no way to candy coat it. We are certainly in a down cycle; however, when we start climbing back out is a matter of people deciding we've hit bottom and the time's right to start investing in their businesses again."

Evan Bevins and Sam Shawver contributed to this story.

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Birdlover
01-11-09 8:05 PM
"Things are bad & getting worse!"

Parrothead...you got that right and it's*****scary!

Everytime I drive past Goodwill the parking lot is packed!

The stores are not as full as they used to be and those shopping are having a hard time parting with their money! You can just see it on their faces!

Plus, the stores are still trying to get rid of the Christmas inventory...people are not buying it to put away for next year like I have seen in the past.

I have also noticed (WalMart) that the food prices are raising and they are moving around inventory to make the shelves look full.

Birdlover
01-11-09 7:59 PM
Lily...Ohh hogwash! Obama will be spending boucoo bucks to fix the White House up to suit him and all his family members that will be living there!

Just look at all the money he spent for that elaborate stage during his acceptance speech!

And BTW, I voted for President Bush twice and I don't have any problem looking in the mirror! Let us hope and pray that those who voted for Obama can say the same in 4-yrs!

LilyOValley
01-11-09 3:49 PM
On a national basis, if you count everyone who wants a job but can't find one, best estimates are these people number 1 out of 8 Americans.

The unemployment stats. do not include 'discouraged' workers who have given up, those who graduate from schools who want jobs but don't find them (and hence go live with relatives or go back to school), etc.

Every economist knows the real stats are worse than the 7.2% UE rate that is computed by the Bureau of Labor.

Parrothead
01-11-09 3:23 PM
You’re right Brooks. Companies don’t report it as a cutback or lay-off when they send contractors out of the facilities. DuPont Washington Works has 0 contractors for the 1st time in 40 years. Contractors have been removed from ALL the plants.

Could 1000 jobs be lost? They already have been lost, + more.

Local news will not do any investigation & then report their findings. They’re no more than people taking dictation. They print what’s told to them, never what they’ve found for themselves. Reporters my A*S!

Want to know how bad the economy is? Drive by Goodwill & see how full the parking lot is, go to a jewelry stores or pawn shops & see how many people are selling their valuables, ask a local food pantry how many people they’re seeing.

You can’t listen to that worthless Mike Jacoby. All he does is tell you to change your perspective on the economy or that a new pizza shop has opened up & will employ 4 people at minimum wage.

Things are bad & getting worse!

LilyOValley
01-11-09 12:01 PM
blame someone.

LilyOValley
01-11-09 12:00 PM
I didn't see anything racist about MrAlex's post either.

But I have to wonder.

I suggest folks just look at the facts:

The Bush Administration during 8 years, threw away at least 10 TRILLION dollars. Go back and review it - enormous money wasted on Iraqi rebuilding that went to corrupt officials, selling the war with lies, money to to pad various industries that featured crooks in the form of tax favors and breaks, corruption at the Interior Department (in another age, this would make a front-page scandal, complete with a multi-million $$ makeover of the Sec. of the Interior's office bathroom, including monogrammed towels), etc., etc..

All this waste at the taxpayer expense.

Then look at the economy today, and the IMITATION of a 'free-market' that Bush and the Republicans sold to the American public.

Sure, I don't think Obama will solve all these problems. There are too many.

But voters who elected Bush twice should look in a mirror if they want to bla

Brooks
01-11-09 10:00 AM
Let me just make a note about a statistic quoted in the article....only 300 hundred jobs lost in the whole area last month...oh yeah...Dupont didn't really report about the approximately 300 contract workers layed off from WW. I believe the headline run in this paper was "No layoffs at Washington Works" or something like that. What a laugh. Tell that to the UTI, PSA and many other contract workers who have worked there for YEARS...some more than 20 years...and were shown the gate. Lots more job losses in this area than have been 'reported'. Just go to the Unemployment office. Corporate America has run the country into the ground...with a big dose of help from the Republican Party.

k26101
01-10-09 7:25 PM
mcdonalds is always hiring

ANGNSCT
01-10-09 5:08 PM
and just something to add to the list, st joes hospital cut 20+ positions friday..

ANGNSCT
01-10-09 5:04 PM
to those of you who think the mid ohio valley is vital to the national economy need to do a little research, first american styrenic will still be one of the biggest styrenics plants in the country, second the dupont plant here ships its products all over the country and then there is century aluminum, and how about poublic debt? they are pretty vital..people in this area hate the manufacturing industry, people need to realize that is how a huge amount of people in this area make a living..instead of the plants relocating maybe the people against them should!

Birdlover
01-10-09 3:05 PM
I think MrAlex's post reflects what alot of people...Ok, maybe half the people (the half that DID NOT vote for Obama!) are thinking and worrying about!

However, I did not see anything "racist" about his post?

Amusing that anyone who says anything "bad" about the President elect are immediately deemed "racist"...but the first news we heard was how he was the "first Black President to be elected to office"?

Let me clarify tho that even though I didn't vote for him, I support and hope Obama can make the "change" he says he can. I fear he has already realised he is in wayy over his head tho!

LilyOValley
01-10-09 2:25 PM
Actually, to make the point a little more seriously, there is a clear exception to my statements: Pittsburgh.

Pittsburgh has completely revitalized it's economy since the days of big steel in the 1970s and before. Pittsburgh reinvested in technology and education. Take a look at the data: unemployment there is now BELOW to the national average (not above), housing is affordable, they didn't have a housing bubble like a lot of places that over-developed real estate, etc., etc.

For an old industrial town, Pittsburgh did it right. They learned to change. The powers-that-be in Parkersbug-Marietta could learn a lot from examining the decisions made in Pittsburgh.

But they still have two big advantages we don't: Carneige-Mellon U and Pitt, both of which have turned themselves (especially CMU) into absolutely first-rate technology schools.

LilyOValley
01-10-09 2:18 PM
Clarification: I did in fact say 'wern't vital' but I wasn't talking about the labor force, I was talking about the industrial base. And I didn't say 'weren't vital' to refer to the workers.

That's the point.

LilyOValley
01-10-09 2:16 PM
there are people who like to believe that the mid-Ohio Valley is somehow a very important seat of American industry are, frankly, living in the past.

That really hasn't been true since the 1950s or 1960s. And it very clearly hasn't been true since the 1980s.

Sorry, get used to the truth.

LilyOValley
01-10-09 2:14 PM
I didn't say 'weren't vital', nor do I wish to impugn in any way the workers of the area.

But reality is reality. Guess what? Boeing (Seattle), Caterpillar (Peoria), and most everything in the Silicon Valley, is one h-e-l-l of a lot more 'vital' to the well-being of American industry than anything on 150 miles either side of the Ohio River from Wheeling to Gallapolis.

That happens to be a FACT, not just 'my opinion', and it has nothing to do with someone being 'better than' somebody else.

But , but the degree to which

straightup52
01-10-09 2:08 PM
A "Thump on the Head" to those who think that our areas Manufacturing Companies and Blue Collar Workers are not vital to the economy. A very Big "Thump on the Head"!!!!

straightup52
01-10-09 1:53 PM
"Even if you have connections, no matter where you call in the Mid-Ohio Valley, they already have a hiring freeze or ... layoffs," Wurtzbacher said. "I see nothing in the future to make me think anything positive's happening in this area."

Here is my response to Mark Wurtzbacher's statement:

Mark, the door has closed for you and many of your coworkers at that particular establishment, however, other doors are open that need to be taken into yours and the others consideration, for instance moving to another physical area of the U.S. or returning to School for training in another line of work. These doors are open for all that find themselves removed from their positions. I am probably going to be layed off from my job and I have a Plan A and Plan B which consists of school and/or moving. A year and a half ago I saw that the ecomony was staggering a little and put my Plan A to work (returned to school for a recession proof degree) and have not regretted my decis

LilyOValley
01-10-09 1:48 PM
To make another comment on a comment, I don't think the Ohio Valley is particularly vital to the national economy, and I don't think it is a very high priority target for an international enemy either. I think that is mostly a self-importance fantasy.

If that were so true, why have jobs fled this region for 25 years like it was ground zero for bubonic plague?

Think about it.

Almost any industry in California (technology, areospace, agricultural research), the Northeast (center of banking and money as well as more dense industry), or now the new South (newer industrial base) is a more vital target for any sort of nuclear attack than the mid-Ohio valley.

Sure, southern Ohio might be 'more targeted' than Western Nebraska, but so what? It sure isn't all that high on the list. It likely falls below at least 100 to 200 more vital population centers in the USA as a priority target.

LilyOValley
01-10-09 1:40 PM
There aren't any people (except a few who might be institutionalized or otherwise receiving therapy) who believe "the flowers will bloom, the sun will shine, and we'll all be skipping hand in hand".

Rather, conservatives, reactionaries, and know-nothings like to use this as a characterization of Obama supporters.

That said, our problems will not be solved anytime soon because they have very deep origins. They go beyond housing, and extend throughout many American public policy decisions for 25 years.

To comment on the comment about homeowner responsibility, yes, it is the responsibility of homeowners to buy what they can afford. But it is Banking 101 to lend to the creditworthy, not those who cannot pay. The reason banks and mortgage companies did what they did was they could get the mortgages almost immediately resold and securitized, so their risk from making a bad loan was insulated. That IS a regulatory and policy issue that goes beyond individual responsibility

dsk4wva
01-10-09 11:14 AM
Yeah it was all the bankers fault. Why aren't the morons that borrowed a zillion dollars to live in a house they could not afford responsible? They should have known they could not afford a house and if they didn't know, they should not have been buying a house to begin with. When are we ever going to stop whining and waiting on the government to regulate and stimulate. Give me a break, we need people to get back to work and stop whining. People simply want to live a life way beyond their means and they surely don't expect to work to increase their means. Give me a break stop whining, start working, and stop wasting money on eating out every day, clothes you can't afford and cars and other toys. Start living within your means without drowning in credit. And please stop whining and waiting on government to bail you out whether you are a homeowner or Century Aluminum.

straightup52
01-10-09 11:04 AM
I'd like to thank Justin for bringing to the thousands of readers of this newspaper such a positive and information packed article! Thanks Justin for the downer!

We are not an insulated nor are we an insolated area. If a nuclear attack were to come about, this area would be one of the most heavily hit area because of all the manufacturing that is done here. Our area is one many important areas of the U.S. that keeps the economy flowing by producing goods and services that people need. Maybe these elected officials, business leaders and economic development officials need to get their heads out of the sand and open their eyes on a daily basis so that they can give the nonbusiness people of this area a more accurate picture of what is going down.

I think that we need to listen to Mike Jacoby when he states that we need to adjust our prospectives. This advice that he has given is very wise indeed!

Bowermj
01-10-09 10:32 AM
I don't believe MrAlex is being racist at all....I, too believe that on the 20th, the flowers will bloom, the sun will shine, and we'll all be skipping hand in hand! MrAlex is only making fun of all the people who actually seem to believe this crap! Obama will hopefully do well...but the dems who are already placing him with the great ones even before he is sworn in have made it hard for serious people to take him seriously! Too much hype! Let's hope the President -elect will turn the country around and lets support him, but slow down on the praise until we see results.

Parrothead
01-10-09 9:49 AM
MrAlex – Are you really Ann Couter? I had never heard anyone spew as much hatred and un-sympathetic words as her UNTIL now!

You really are a very ugly person and you represent what is wrong with America today.

May I also say that it is individuals like you that drove myself and many other voters away from the conservative Republican Party and to President Barack Obama.

As for Obama raising wages and paying for kids to go to college – What’s the difference in that and the taxpayer supplementing the employees at companies like Wal*Mart? I guess the later is OK because you see it as good business practices in a capitalist society.

I will pray for you to find the peace that is so obviously missing in your life Sir.

Brooks
01-10-09 8:55 AM
Mr Alex, your ignorance never ceases to amaze me. What an ugly person you must be. I wonder if you will ever eat your words with the gusto that you spew them.

LilyOValley
01-10-09 6:27 AM
Indeed, it is rather pathetic that MrAlex sees it appropriate to ridicule the President-elect, yet has absoultely nothing to offer to solve the problems created as a function deceptive banking and securities practices, over-expansive regulation-free lending and greed.

How pathetic.

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