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Syria

Learning nothing from past mistakes

August 30, 2013

Reports from the White House say an attack against Syria could come soon....

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tabledoc

Aug-30-13 12:33 AM

when you have an amateur in control, expect a major screw up. Praying calmer heads prevail. If the crazy people over there want to kill each other...so be it.

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denver

Aug-30-13 5:19 AM

Thank goodness George W. Bush and Dick "shotgun" Cheney isn't in office now!!! Its Time to honor our Veterans, not create more.

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Itsnottolate

Aug-30-13 6:39 AM

It is time to honor our veterans, lets see what potus does now. If he decides to go, will that be alright with you?

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RANDOM21

Aug-30-13 8:10 AM

Surely with all that desert land in Syria POTUS can find an empty camp or aspirin factory to waste a few Tomahawks on. Clinton played "wag the dog" with the best of them, now Obama will show how it's done while grasping his Nobel Peace Prize for comfort.

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AaronS

Aug-30-13 8:16 AM

In 2003, when it was popular and public opinion supported the war in Iraq, Democrats were on board with the war effort. After public opinion turned, Democrats abandoned the war drums and began calling for Bush's head. We endured massive protest and chants of war crimes from the left.

That ended when Obama took office even though the war mongering continued. Now Obama is ready to take America into another war despite less evidence and support from not only the American public but the world as well. Whereas President Bush had a UN Authorization of Force, Obama has none and is willing to 'go it alone' as he’s ‘concluded’ the anecdotal reports are correct despite no concrete evidence.

Where are the cries of protest from the left? Why isn’t anyone calling for Obama’s head, accusing him of war crimes and demanding he cease his aggressive military tactics? Where are the ‘manydemocrats’ and ‘Suttle’s’ of the world objecting to use of our military to fight another’s war?

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tazioli

Aug-30-13 8:51 AM

We can no longer afford to be the world's police. Unless we are part of a UN force with a truly SHARED sacrifice, boots and $$, we should NOT do anything. However, we need a plan.

We need to reduce our dependence on the mid-east for energy. As long as we are dependent, we are at the mercy of these countries.

While we have the resources, we need to immediately start building the infrastructure to use our own energy resources: natural gas, solar, wind, geothermal, etc.

In closing, we can not longer borrow the money to "fix the bullies" of the world. At the very least, if we do then let the rest of world pay for our services: a new export business??

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manydemocrats

Aug-30-13 9:19 AM

Aaron, I am here with my opinion of course. I am certainly not calling for Obama's head as of yet. I didn't call for Bush/Cheney's heads until I learned that we {The American People} had been duped into a war for oil and not WMD's. I still believe they should be tried and hung for their war crimes. As for Syria, at this time, I am strongly opposed to our nation's entry into that war. BUT, As of yet, no decision has been made as to our degree of involvement. Unlike you of the Right Wing/Tea Baggers, I will not prematurely condemn an administration until ALL of the facts are known. As for Iraq, Obama after being elected, did begin immediately winding down and ending that war, asap. This administration is faced with some very difficult decisions as to WHAT actions should be taken. The evidence that they have, is yet an UNKNOWN....

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manydemocrats

Aug-30-13 9:33 AM

I would remind all of you, that the use of horrendous Chemical Weapons has been banned by the world community. If we and the world's nations stand idly by and allow anyone to kill in mass with these weapons NOW, then you can expect to see perhaps thousands upon thousands of Americans gassed in the streets of Europe and Asia. Do we wait until Israel or South Korea has been gassed until we take action???

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AaronS

Aug-30-13 12:21 PM

You are using the same rationale that you condemn Bush for when you talk about gassing Americans manydemocrats. Does that make you a hypocrite for calling for Bush to be charged with war crimes?

Also, you claim America was duped. Do you include the Democrats in Congress, including Hilldog, Jay, Kerry and Edwards who supported the use of force in Iraq? If Bush should stand for war crimes, they should to, right!!!!! Anything less you a two time hypocrite manydemocrats.

Are you a 2 time hypocrite or do you agree that Congressman should suffer the same fate as President Bush!!!!!

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neocurmudgeon74

Aug-30-13 3:05 PM

"far less evidence." (The Editor).

"less evidence" (AaronS).

Sec. Kerry in his speech this afternoon pointed out that SOMEBODY launched a chemical attack. Was there more evidence than that for WMD in Saddam's Iraq?

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neocurmudgeon74

Aug-30-13 3:08 PM

tazioli, the word for that isn't "export business," it's "mercenary".

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AaronS

Aug-30-13 4:22 PM

"Was there more evidence than that for WMD in Saddam's Iraq?"

According to EVERY National Intelligence Estimate in the world, yes, there was.

Even those who didn't support the use of force like Bob Byrd acknowledged that Iraq had WMD's.

You think maybe he felt that way because the US gave Iraq WMD's in the 1980's?

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denver

Aug-30-13 6:40 PM

President Obama said no boots on the ground! Good! As for the Chemical Weapons let's let the Arabs take care of them!

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AaronS

Aug-30-13 11:44 PM

Why must the United States be responsible for holding Assad accountable.

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Suttle

Aug-31-13 12:03 AM

If the world turns its back on the Syrian people after chemical weapons were used against them, then eventually the use of chemical weapons will be used again against others, including those of us that live in the United States of America. Secretary of State, John Kerry, is right when he says that we cannot let such an insidious act against innocent men, women and children go unpunished. President Obama has a strong record of making sure that evil doers pay a price for their actions.

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GPettit12

Aug-31-13 12:18 AM

I say NO! It is like my younger days when i tell my friends that if we go into the bar for drinks i am NOT going to help them out whenever they get into an argument/ fighting with others. It never fails because I was the one fighting for them. ENOUGH! Lets start taking care of our own people. I have an idea, if we do use our forces let's send Syria the bill to pay for it!

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AaronS

Aug-31-13 1:16 AM

Shuttle, you just made the same argument for Obamas action in Syria that Bush supporters made for him regarding Iraq?

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denver

Aug-31-13 8:22 AM

I agree with "manydemocrats" and "Suttle" that something has to done about the use of chemical weapons. What, I don't know, as long there's no boots on the ground! First lets make sure who is responsible for ordering the chemical attacks. And then go form there.

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denver

Aug-31-13 8:37 AM

Like I wrote, "Thank goodness George W. Bush and Dick "shotgun" Cheney isn't in office now!!!

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Suttle

Aug-31-13 8:44 AM

AaronS...President Bush and Vice President Dick "the torturer" Cheney lied to the American people about the war in Iraq. They knowingly lied to get the USA in a war against a country that posed no threat against us or others. That is a big difference. President G.W. Bush and his side kick Cheney should be charged with war crimes.

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Itsnottolate

Aug-31-13 1:48 PM

We have already tried to protect the innocent people and the people we tried to help did not want us there and now, these people are saying they do not want us their as are other nations. The only result will be more killed and disabled soldiers that take on whatever battle the govt tells them to go fight. When the battle starts to engage our allies or us then lets fight but until then let's stay out of it.

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jarhead99

Aug-31-13 2:20 PM

Well it looks like my next deployment will be to Syria. So did Congress vote on this? I have been out of the loop with no internet. Someone bring me up to speed. Is the Nobel Peace Price recipient meddling in someone else's business?

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AaronS

Aug-31-13 9:21 PM

If President Bush and Cheney lied, why did Hilldog, Jay, Bidden and the other 26 Democrats in the Senate along with Nancy Pelosi and the House Democrats who supported the use of force not call President Bush on his lie as they had access to the EXACT same intelligence as the President did? Are you saying they knew Bush lied and did nothing?

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GPettit12

Aug-31-13 11:41 PM

Aaron- These people do not understand that the President is NOT the most powerful office in the US Government It is the Congress, they had the exact info of Iraq having WMDs. They along with Britian signed on to go to Iraq NOT for the oil, like some of you dems like to put the spin on what really happen.

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Toehead

Sep-01-13 7:14 AM

Why is this genocide not the UN's top agenda? If the UN can not get enough votes to respond to Syria's actions why should the United States? It may be time for the U.S. to leave the UN.

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