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Wyndemere

Gate, not street, is the real issue

July 25, 2013

After Parkersburg City Council Finance Committee members on Tuesday refused to endorse a proposal to pay $34,000 toward repair work on the streets of the Wyndemere subdivision, Parkersburg Mayor Bob......

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north26103

Jul-25-13 12:40 AM

NEWELL IS RIGHT ON THIS ISSUE. THEY TAKE THE PROPERTY IN TO THE CITY, THEY SHOULD TAKE CARE OF THE ROADS. IF THE RESIDENTS PAY HIGHER PROPERTY TAXES FOR BEING IN THE CITY THEN THEY SHOULD GET THE CITY SERVICES. RIGHT ON NEWELL AND SANTER.

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denver

Jul-25-13 5:14 AM

This should have been taking care of before it was annexed, thanks to the lack of leadership, of the Mayor and City Council in 1999 its now left up to Mayor Newell to take care of.

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Phoenix

Jul-25-13 7:10 AM

The roads need to be paid for by the home owners if the gate stays. Otherwise, any other subdivision shouls be permitted to erect a gate to reduce wear and tear and keep children safe.

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viennaman

Jul-25-13 7:11 AM

Here is a history lesson on the gate that not very many people are aware of. When this development was being erected, the developer clear cut all trees and vegetation from the hillside at once. Then the spring rains came and washed all of the sand and mud down 12th Street. The mud was a foot deep, If not deeper in places. The developer wanted the City of Vienna to clean the mess up, including using the fire dept. to spray water with their trucks. Mayor Nohe told them no, it was their problem to deal with. The road was eventually cleared by the developer. However, the developer originally wanted annexed into Vienna. When the city refused to clean up the muddy mess, the developer got upset and vowed to erect a gate cutting off Vienna residents from traveling on "their" roads, and annexed into Parkersburg. I have very little sympathy for the residents wyndemere. Vienna residents should be happy that their tax dollars aren't going to these streets.

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hearme2

Jul-25-13 8:33 AM

it is ALL about the gate !!! I live close to Wyndemere and have seen the extremes some of these homeowners will go to in keeping the "public" out of their development !! Do not use taxpayers $ to pave their streets unless the gate comes down (btw, there is only ONE gate). City streets should be open to all, don't make the "public" pay for their private streets. Let "them" sue the Developer who created this horrible mess in the first place !!

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Northender

Jul-25-13 8:54 AM

I hope the city has learned a lesson finally--force all developers to build according to code so situations like this, Packard Way and Orchard St do not occur again. Simple as that.

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BakerKat

Jul-25-13 9:40 AM

You are absolutely correct Northender. Once again we are reacting instead of being proactive. Newell's time is short - have to hurry and get all those paybacks in.

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MrSmith

Jul-25-13 11:00 AM

Everyone has done a great job of summarizing the issue, with the obvious exception of north26103, who chooses to ignore the fact that every other road in the city is, in fact, a PUBLIC (i.e. open access to ALL) road.

Additionally, I thought that Joe Santer was a good guy, but he's not understanding the issue in this case. Let me try to be as succinct as possible:

If PUBLIC TAX MONEY is used to pay for repairs to a ROAD, then the ROAD is a PUBLIC ROAD. If the PUBLIC is not allowed free use of a road, then the road is, by definition, PRIVATE. PRIVATE ROADS do NOT receive PUBLIC tax money. This is why the city does not pay for MY PRIVATE driveway.

Definition of PRIVATE: Belonging to or for the use of ONE PARTICULAR person or GROUP of people only.

Do you see the difference, or do you still not understand the definitions of PRIVATE and PUBLIC???

Yes, the issue IS THE GATE, in that PUBLIC money does NOT pay for PRIVATE roads.

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Newshound1

Jul-25-13 8:41 PM

Mayor said "Why would we create a shortcut to Vienna?" referencing people going to shop in Vienna. I see him at the mall and Vienna Walmart all the time.

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denver

Jul-26-13 5:25 AM

So what?

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thesafe1

Jul-26-13 2:27 PM

If you don't want the roads in Wydemere paid for by city funds, then you should refund the residents of that area the portion of their taxes they paid for that service.

Then maybe they can pay for the already public road out of their own pockets.

Should they also be denied medical, fire, and police services because there is a "gate?"

You all might not like it, but they pay taxes for all the services we do.

It really isn't about a "gate." Wyndemere is not closed to the public.

Take a drive through there tonight if you don't believe me.

It sounds like the vast majority of posters on here are happy that the roads in Wyndemere are in the poor condition that they are.

That's petty.

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GreenWizard

Jul-29-13 12:11 AM

Any Lowe's discounts here? LOL....I need another shrub or two haha...

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MisterT

Jul-29-13 10:42 PM

If this goes through and the city pays to fix the roads and the gate on the Vienna side is closed then I'll just go for many joy rides on my Harley through their precious subdivision. Since it's a city road there's nothing stopping me...I hope those snooty people like the noise!!

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