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Obama policies are hurting W.Va.

July 8, 2013

West Virginia was forced to take nearly $18 million out of its Medicaid reserve fund in order to avoid ending its fiscal year on Sunday with a budget defici....

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tabledoc

Jul-08-13 1:37 AM

MAYBE WE WILL SOOON BE BACK TO A PART OF VIRGINIA

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denver

Jul-08-13 6:31 AM

Remember this? "I think taking the food tax off is a good thing, expressly for the working poor! "BUT" Now watch, the state will announce that their tax collection is down due to the war on coal, and their going to have to cut more form the bottom state Employees benefits to make up the different. So in the end the working poor will have to pay for it anyway! " Its a comment I made on the article "West Virginia says goodbye to food tax"

It didn't take long, now did it?

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AaronS

Jul-08-13 10:12 AM

Regardless on your thoughts about coal and who is responsible, production is declining thus taxes from coal are declining as well. Blaming the President, no matter how deserved, is not going to change that. As such, our lawmakers need to look to the future and map out where revenues are going to come from to cover our needs.

While there are likely to be many suggestions, the truth is, raising taxes cannot be the only option. We must become more efficient as a state and maximize the tax dollars we have. A part of that is looking at how we spend our tax dollars. Whenever cuts can be made, they should with a emphasis on fraud and waste.

One example is signage on Route 50 between Clarksburg and Parkersburg. I was traveled across and back this past weekend and noted that EVERY sign was duplicated with new signs even though there was nothing wrong with the old ones. Until waste such as that is eliminated, there is no reason to discuss raising taxes.

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manydemocrats

Jul-08-13 10:58 AM

The continuous 100 year+ raping of West Virginia's resources, environment, and health and safety of our "WORKING CLASS" by the wealthy elite coal corporations has finally come face the realities of having to clean up their act. The sooner that our state government begins to fully explore and invest in alternative energy like wind, solar, and natural gas the better. Hopefully, the voters of this state will demand that their legislators and congress people get off the PAYROLL of these corrupt corporations and begin representing the interests, future, security, and health of the PEOPLE of this long abused, impoverished state. Sadly but truly, we are a state with an yet UNDEVELOPED and UNEXPLORED potential of wealth and prosperity for all and NOT JUST THE POLITICIANS AND GIANT COAL CORPORATIONS.

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RANDOM21

Jul-08-13 1:32 PM

"Out of all the 121 terms of statewide office that have been regularly elected since 1932, only seven were lost by the Democrats. Three of those seven terms were won by the same person, Arch A. Moore Jr. Moore Jr. is the only Republican candidate from West Virginia to fare well in state and national office races. Since 1930, Democrats have held majorities in both chambers of the West Virginia Legislature." Wiki. How is it the Party of the People have kept them down and poor for over 80 years? Did some of the great members of the Democrats also get rich along with the Robber Barons? Did some of those many democrats not care about their constitutes nearly as much as they profess? You betcha. With all that power for so long, we should be at the top and not thanking places like MS or AL for keeping us off the bottom.

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AaronS

Jul-08-13 2:19 PM

Manydemocrats has lied, cheated, stole and profited from the poor in this state during the past 4 score.

As for the blame, President Obama shares some of it with his (quoting his aid) war on coal.

Seems to me though that if you support the President and his "agenda" you have no problem calling it what it is.

Is there a reason the liberals on this site can not do that?

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neocurmudgeon74

Jul-08-13 2:43 PM

The old signs on Rt.50 do look a little dingy when you can see the new signs right beside them. & several of them provide more information than the ones they replace. Still, AaronS is right: we could have gotten by a few more years w/ the old signs. Aaron's whole 10:12 is right -- & regular readers know I don't Agree w/ a lot of them.

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manydemocrats

Jul-08-13 3:08 PM

Random & Aaron, You should have noted in your comments that I DID NOT exclude democrats from my criticism of our states politicians. "We" the Working Class people of this state REPUBLICANS & DEMOCRATS have been raped and pillaged by these leaches long enough. As for your 3 term Republican Governor ARCH MOORE, I helped to convict and send him to jail many years ago, for his obscene corrupt activities. As Gridiron said: It's a war on pollution. And NOT a war on coal and the crooks that inhabit our statehouse of whichever party... If you and others of BOTH parties DON'T wake-up and pay attention to the facts and the truth. West Virginia will end up being lower than Mississippi, Alabama, and TEXAS. TEXAS is the lowest of the low...

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RANDOM21

Jul-08-13 3:10 PM

The regulations the President wants to force on coal are not feasible. And if it’s not feasible, it’s not reasonable,” said West Virginia Democratic Sen. Joe Manchin “It’s clear now that the President has declared a war on coal. It’s simply unacceptable that one of the key elements of his climate change proposal places regulations on coal that are completely impossible to meet with existing technology.”

“Politically, the White House is hesitant to say they’re having a war on coal. On the other hand, a war on coal is exactly what’s needed,” said Harvard geochemist Daniel P. Schrag, a member of a White House’s advisory panel

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RANDOM21

Jul-08-13 3:28 PM

When one party has had as much control in state politics as the democrats have had in West Virginia, I wouldn't want to mention party affiliation either. You want to get rid of the politicians that caused this mess, well, in WV that would be the evil democrats. Change your name to FormerDemocrat, then let's talk.

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RANDOM21

Jul-08-13 3:44 PM

Obama stated in 2008: “If somebody wants to build a coal-powered plant, they can. It’s just that it will bankrupt them…” If that wasn't a declaration of intent if not war, then you've played too much football without a helmet. WV has @528MW produced by windfarms, with 365MW more proposed. Except for they can't operate for extended periods of time due to bats and birds being killed by the thousands. Think of all that toxic gas from decomposition ruining the atmosphere and tainting your wish for fighting pollution. Do you want a pristine environment or the ability to afford to keep from freezing in winter? If the cost of providing power increases then all costs also will rise. We are just limping along with one crisis removed from total meltdown of our society. A cost of power crisis isn't needed anytime soon. Not backing off, everybody should know Obama is not a friend of coal, he is only a friend of Obama.

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manydemocrats

Jul-08-13 4:32 PM

Random, You and the PN&S use Joe Manchin to confirm your allegations of an OBAMA war on coal. I am probably one of the most outspoken critics of Joe Manchin that posts in these comments. However, for you and the PN&S to use his name as confirmation is a disingenuous lie. Joe Manchin like Mckinley has large financial investments and interests in the coal industry. Thus their words, comments and actions should never be trusted... It's very sad, that the PN&S NEVER states HOW LARGE those personal interests are, for them and other POLITICAL figures of BOTH PARTIES.... I FOR ONE, WOULD LIKE TO SEE THE TRUTH AND FACTS FOR ONCE!!! NOT JUST BIASED ALLEGATIONS! PUBLISH THE TRUTH ON ALL OF THEM!!!

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RANDOM21

Jul-08-13 4:42 PM

Mini: You can't handle the truth. Grid: you need to wear more head protection or see about repetitive concussion damage. The dems and Obama are walking in lockstep on this. It's the collective, the hive and he's the Queen bee for now. Just where is Reggie Love?

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AaronS

Jul-08-13 5:12 PM

Selective reading Grid? I think so. “Politically, the White House is hesitant to say they’re having a war on coal. On the other hand, a war on coal is exactly what’s needed,” said Harvard geochemist Daniel P. Schrag, a member of a White House’s advisory panel."

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AaronS

Jul-08-13 6:11 PM

Will the link showing the President never said there needed to be a war on coal in a private setting be coming with the link showing the filibuster of background checks by the 111th Comgress or in a separate post?

Seriously, you have to have a pretty low level of intelligence if you believe any aid for any President makes a public policy comment unless they are expressly instructed to.

I would have thought one of your 5th grade teachers would have taught you that grid. Or did they assume that because you were driving, you already knew?

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denver

Jul-08-13 6:31 PM

Here's an Idea since Medicaid already puts enormous pressure on West Virginia's budget, and if helping poor people and people with disabilities and the elderly is breaking our state. Why don't we just kill all of the poor, disabled and elderly. Would that make you conservatives happy?

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AaronS

Jul-08-13 7:56 PM

Whatever happened to Obama cleaning up Medicaid and Medicare? Wasn't that supposed to save hundreds of millions that could have been used on these state expansions?

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RANDOM21

Jul-08-13 9:31 PM

Obamacare's "death panels" will do that nicely. Just put them on an ice-floe and drift them into the Arctic Ocean. Peaceful sleep will come shortly and the polar bears feast on the remains. Either that or soylent green.

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RANDOM21

Jul-08-13 9:53 PM

Neither state voted for the poser in chief. Where have I contradicted myself? What is it that is so hard to fathom? Obama has wanted to wage war on coal from before he was elected and with no future election to worry about he has decided that regulations will do what Congress has rightfully blocked him from accomplishing. His recovery has been propped up artificial stimulating the markets with $85billion per month of purchasing toxic paper from the financial world. Just a hint from Bernanke that the money might slow down the world markets dive.When the bubble bursts and meltdown really gets rolling then all should realize what an empty suit Obama as has been. 30: when 29 is just not enough.

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GPettit12

Jul-09-13 12:53 AM

Great posts Random! Think BO cares about WV people?

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denver

Jul-09-13 5:20 AM

Little buddy Obamacare "The Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act" doesn't go into affect until 2014 and its 2013. So how do you know it won't save hundreds of millions? The answer is you don't!

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neocurmudgeon74

Jul-09-13 7:41 AM

The word "aid" is used several times in this thread.

Did you mean "aide"?

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neocurmudgeon74

Jul-09-13 7:51 AM

Sorry, I had never seen the spelling "aid" for "aide", but after posting I looked it up, & dictionary dot com says both spellings have been used:

"Usage note "Although the nouns aid and aide both have among their meanings “an assisting person,” the spelling aide is increasingly used for the sense “helper, assistant”:"

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AaronS

Jul-09-13 8:37 AM

Perhaps I should have used the more proper noun. If I could edit I would exchange aid for minion.

How's that Neo? :)

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