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Safeguards

Privacy assurances far from persuasive

June 30, 2013

Government officials’ reactions to revelations the privacy of millions of Americans has been invaded would be laughable were the situation not so serious....

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denver

Jul-04-13 8:45 AM

Wrong answer little buddy, try again!

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AaronS

Jul-03-13 7:20 PM

The warrantless intercept program would have expired at the end of 2012 without the president’s approval. The renewal bill won final passage in the Senate on Friday. Known as the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act, the law allows the government to monitor overseas phone calls and emails without obtaining a court order for each intercept.

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denver

Jul-03-13 6:03 AM

What about the warrant-less wiretapping?

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AaronS

Jul-02-13 10:42 PM

If you research PRISM and FISA, it is very easy to those whose heads aren't up their a** can easily see that the collection of data of American citizens is unconstitutional.

"And that has what to do with this article?"

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denver

Jul-02-13 9:17 PM

"AaronS" how did you come up with warrant-less wiretapping? No where in this article does it say anything about NSA doing warrant-less wiretapping! It states "National Security Agency has been secretly seizing telephone records of millions of Americans - and monitoring many calls." It doesn't say they were monitoring call without a warrant. So again where did you come up warrant-less wiretapping there little buddy? Is it because that's what Bush and Shot gun Cheney was doing?

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denver

Jul-02-13 8:57 PM

And that has what to do with this article?

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AaronS

Jul-02-13 8:16 PM

"United States v. U.S. District Court, 407 U.S. 297 (1972), also known as the Keith case, was a landmark United States Supreme Court decision that upheld, in a unanimous 8-0 ruling, the requirements of the Fourth Amendment in cases of domestic surveillance targeting a domestic threat."

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If you research PRISM and FISA, it is very easy to those whose heads aren't up their a** can easily see that the collection of data of American citizens is unconstitutional.

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denver

Jul-02-13 6:21 PM

"I guess when you don't have an answer to a simple question, divert and distort is the next best thing." Is that why you answered "How did you come up with warrant-less wiretapping? "

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AaronS

Jul-02-13 7:40 AM

Now it seems even the Marxist across the pond are upset with is as well.

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denver

Jul-02-13 6:30 AM

Well said "manydemocrats"

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AaronS

Jul-01-13 10:02 PM

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I don't know if that will work since I'm posting from my iPhone. If it does, there's a link to a YouTube video highlighting the debate between candidate Obama and President Obama. If you're not a partisan hack, it's worth the watch.

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AaronS

Jul-01-13 9:51 PM

I guess when you don't have an answer to a simple the question, divert and distort is the next best thing.

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manydemocrats

Jul-01-13 7:50 PM

Off Topic: "YES" But another example.....The Republican-dominated Ohio State legislature, along with Governor John Kasich dismantled women’s reproductive rights with the stroke of a pen last night. All this was done last-minute without debate, and without hearings. These horrifying provisions were added into a budget bill and slammed through. They knew what they were doing. How bad is it for Ohio women now? Bad. In Ohio, you are now pregnant before a fertilized egg implants in the uterus. You will be forced to submit to and pay for medically unnecessary ultrasounds. You will be lied to by taxpayer-funded religious organizations, who will still receive their funding ahead of Planned Parenthood. An abortion provider will be required by law to attempt to find a fetal heartbeat and inform you if there is one. You may not be able to use an IUD in the state of Ohio.

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manydemocrats

Jul-01-13 7:41 PM

passing common sense gun control regulations designed to prevent mass shootings, regulations to keep our air and water clean, regulations to prevent future economic crashes, and the list goes on and on. What’s unbelievable is that all of these things were at one time supported by the Republican Party itself. But rather than work with Democrats to find compromise on all of these important issues, Republicans have run to the extreme right because they refuse to work with the first African-American President, revealing the deep racism that is entrenched in the GOP. To that end, the GOP has obstructed bill after bill in the Senate, filibustering over 360 times since 2007.

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manydemocrats

Jul-01-13 7:39 PM

House Republicans are working hard in an effort to make the 113rd Congress even worse than the 112nd. If the last Congress wasn’t enough of a disastrous lesson in how constant obstruction hurts the nation, get ready for even more.“Welcome to divided government. A big part of our job has been to stop bad things from happening.” So said Michael Steel, a spokesman for House Speaker John Boehner who also repeated Senate Minority Leader McConnell’s assertion that the GOP’s only goal is to stop anything President Obama and the Democrats try to do.

Those “bad things” that Democrats and President Obama have tried to accomplish include the rebuilding of America’s crumbling infrastructure, providing accessible and affordable health care for every American, getting America onto a clean energy grid and off of foreign oil, creating jobs, passing meaningful immigration reform, protecting women’s health, strengthening voting rights and civil rights for all, passing common sense gun contr

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denver

Jul-01-13 5:55 PM

And then went on to write: There is a letter in today's "Letters to the editor" tilted (Proving the wrong point) pretty much sums it up! And I agree

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denver

Jul-01-13 5:53 PM

Thats why I worte:

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denver

Jul-01-13 5:51 PM

Thats why I worte: "Here's what I would like to know, where was this editors outrage 8 years ago when this program was implemented? Why now? Would anybody like to guess??"

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AaronS

Jul-01-13 5:43 PM

What baffles me is the ignorance that surrounds this topic. If you call someone who calls someone who calls someone who calls a terrorist then our rights violating government is all over your records. I'm sorry, I don't see how being 6 degrees from the latest fanatical group of the week is not probable cause. It's absurd that people care only about their rights only when the party s them to. How did so many in our society evolve into such a stupor?

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manydemocrats

Jul-01-13 1:41 PM

Aaron, I have NO PROBLEM or CONCERN that BUSH or OBAMA administrations have a record of the phone numbers that I have DIALED. If the numbers that I have DIALED are those of some terrorist organization or someone intent on doing harm to this country. I further have no CONCERN if they properly obtain a court order to record my conversation with those terrorists.... DO THAT ANSWER YOUR INDIGNANT ATTITUDE?????

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AaronS

Jul-01-13 1:34 PM

I'm still waiting on one of the Marxist liberals to justify their excusing George W. Obama for carrying out policies they criticized Bush for engaging in. Seems they can spew partisan tripe that has nothing to do with the question at hand.

Telling.

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manydemocrats

Jul-01-13 1:14 PM

CONT: that would give a path to citizenship to some of the estimated 11 million undocumented immigrants living in the United States. ANOTHER PRIME EXAMPLE OF THE DYSFUNCTIONAL REPUBLICAN PARTY. PEOPLE YOU ARE VIEWING AND WITNESSING THEIR ULTIMATE DEMISE. THEIR 4 1/2 YEARS OF OBSTRUCTIONISM HAS FAILED THE AMERICAN PEOPLE AND IT YET CONTINUES TODAY.......

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manydemocrats

Jul-01-13 1:09 PM

For the REPUBLICAN /TEA BAGGERS: Yesterday, I posted a warning to them from their famous leader MR LIMBAUGH, that they are rapidly becoming a NON-EXISTENT party. Former Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin (R) claimed the GOP could take a big hit if it "continues to back away from the planks in our platform," suggesting some Republicans could look into forming a third party."Remember, these are private parties, and no one forces us to be enlisted in either party," Palin said."I think there will be a lot of us who start saying, 'GOP, if you abandon us, well, we have nowhere else to go except to become more independent and not enlisted in one or the other of the private majority parties that rule in our nation,'" Palin said. Palin hasn't been shy to criticize the GOP since she rejoined Fox News as a paid contributor in June 2013. On Saturday, Palin said it was an "absolute betrayal" for Republicans in the Senate to support an immigration bill that would give a

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Privatized

Jul-01-13 10:42 AM

denver, didn't you hear? Dubya said, it's not illegal if Dubya does it.

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neocurmudgeon74

Jul-01-13 8:42 AM

As w/ climate change, we tend to skip over what we agree on, to focus on points of disagreement even if relatively small. I have never supported the "Patriot" Act, & am losing trust in the FISA court -- though the latter means little until I see how to carry out the PURPOSE for which the FISA court was created.

As for GWO, long before Obama I began noticing how much of government policy DOESN'T change when the voters vote for change.

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