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Wrong Choices

Senate should not confirm NLRB picks

June 10, 2013

Hundreds of rulings handed down by the National Labor Relations Board since January 2012 are, in effect, null and void....

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denver

Jun-10-13 6:30 AM

What was that about republican obstruction?

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denver

Jun-10-13 8:28 AM

The question should be, are Griffin and Block qualified, or not, to be on the NLRB board? Not, how can we obstruct this President and the working of our County to make him look bad.

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manydemocrats

Jun-10-13 8:46 AM

Denver, an excellent comment and observation. Obstruction is the only thing on these RIGHT WINGERS minds. I believe I recall a few BUSH appointees to some office being declared illegal too. It will be interesting to look back and see the PN&S reaction to that.

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AaronS

Jun-10-13 8:52 AM

Does it really matter the name this President nominates? It's clear that whomever he appoints will be a mold of his ultra liberal ideas, spouting his tired tripe and attempting to control and dictate to business as the Board did with Boeing. With the direction of the union and the labor board, it’s no wonder that Americans, the vast majority who believe in an honest day’s pay for an honest day’s work, are overwhelmingly rejecting unions.

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WhatsNext

Jun-10-13 10:10 AM

Odumma fears that his cronies won't be approved so he appoints them when no one is there to object. Everything sounds on the up and up to me. At least, that's how it works in Odumma's USA (United Socialist States). So much for transparency and ethics from this administration.

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manydemocrats

Jun-10-13 10:30 AM

Aaron, I quote you: """whomever he appoints will be a mold of his ULTRA LIBERAL ideas""" Obama has appointed three Republicans to CABINET LEVEL POSITIONS, Defense Secretary Robert Gates has served under several Republican administrations, and though he dropped his party registration to present an apolitical appearance while with the CIA, Gates himself said, "I consider myself a Republican." The other two Obama appointees are card-carrying Republicans: Ray LaHood, a former congressman from Illinois, as secretary of transportation; and Sen. Judd Gregg of New Hampshire as commerce secretary. In addition, we have Senator Chuck Hagel,{R} secretary of defense. Who by the way, was almost rejected {OBSTRUCTED} in confirmation hearings by REPUBLICANS of his own party...When you refer to business, I assume you will agree that OBAMA has RUINED the US auto Industry which now proudly claims #1 status in the world....

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AaronS

Jun-10-13 11:38 AM

I agree manydemocrats that when it comes to foreign policy Obama doesn't have a clue as to what he's doing. That's why we have George W. Obama.

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Domestically, Barry's as liberal as they come as his record proves.

I can't help but note though that of you trying to move the conversation away from the NLRB and it's agenda. An agenda that will continue no matter the name of the appointee as Barry has an agenda, part of which is paying back the unions that helped buy Washington.

Why is that?

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manydemocrats

Jun-10-13 12:16 PM

"BARRY" He better be a LIBERAL. He was elected overwhelmingly by The American people {TWICE} demanding that he be a liberal. As for the NLRB, their agenda is: The NLRB is an independent federal agency that administers the primary law governing relations between unions and employers in the private sector. As for your obvious disrespect, hate and despise of unions, you have the typical Right Wing "CRAP" mentality of distortion and destruction regarding ANYTHING that will benefit the ""AMERICAN WORKING CLASS"" Labor Unions: ""the folks who brought you WEEKENDS, CHILD LABOR LAWS, OVERTIME PAY, MINIMUM WAGE LAWS, INJURY PROTECTION LAWS, WORKMAN'S COMPENSATION LAWS, PENSION SECURITY, RIGHT TO ORGANIZE. This list of WORKERS RIGHTS can go ON & ON & ON!!! WHAT HAS YOUR REPUBLICAN PARTY EVER DONE FOR THE """WORKING CLASS???""" OTHER THAN """OPPOSE""" THESE RIGHTS.?

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manydemocrats

Jun-10-13 1:11 PM

“The Constitution gives the President the authority to make temporary recess appointments to fill vacant positions when the Senate is in recess, a power all recent Presidents have exercised. The Senate has effectively been in recess for weeks, and is expected to remain in recess for weeks. In an overt attempt to prevent the President from exercising his authority during this period, Republican Senators insisted on using a gimmick called “pro forma” sessions, which are sessions during which no Senate business is conducted and instead one or two Senators simply gavel in and out of session in a matter of seconds. But gimmicks do not override the President’s constitutional authority to make appointments to keep the government running.”The D.C. Circuit Court of Appeals in a narrow ruling, a panel of three judges, all REPUBLICANS said a president could make recess appointments only during the formal break between each annual session of Congress. THIS WILL GO TO THE SCOTUS.

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AaronS

Jun-10-13 1:29 PM

…continued…

I know the history of the Union as I’ve been in a few. It is there that I developed the belief that the union is doing more to harm America than good. Far too many subpar employees are basically doing nothing and being protected by a union. One of my first experiences was with the AFL-CIO, who told me that I couldn’t file a grievance against my “union brother” because he spent his time on a pay phone fighting with his GF instead of loading my trailer like he was being paid for. The kicker was, when I started loading the trailer, not only could he file a card against me for taking work away from him, I was reprimanded for doing just that.

I work in an environment that negotiates with the 175th Teamsters, an organization my father was a member of for something like 35 years. As I told a couple of the drivers today, most would have never made it in my father’s union. The vast majority would have been drummed out a long time ago.

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denver

Jun-10-13 1:33 PM

Well said "manydemocrats" And I to would like know what the republicans have ever done for the working man?

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denver

Jun-10-13 1:38 PM

Are you sure your not summarizing there little buddy?

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GPettit12

Jun-10-13 1:39 PM

MD are you trying to say the the bailed out automotive companies are now # 1 in the world? The little three are no where near being #1. This title still belongs to Toyota with the Korea's coming strong. It is most likely that they will take the spot next!

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denver

Jun-10-13 3:01 PM

I wonder where GM, American Motors, and all the jobs in America that support them, would be, if President Obama hadn't bailed them out?

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manydemocrats

Jun-10-13 3:28 PM

Oh GOD Aaron,I couldn't file a grievance against my “union brother” DUH! DUH! So you took it upon yourself to be Judge & Jury of a fellow worker and declare him to be ""SUBPAR"" DUH!!! BY YOUR OWN STATEMENT AND WORDS, you prove that you are not worthy of being a UNION member. All unions have an organized and fair process of legitimately lodging a complaint against a fellow worker. BUT NO, You take it upon your POMPOUS SELF, to NOT FOLLOW that process.... DUH!--- AND NOW YOU ARE ""MAD"" AND UNIONS ARE ""BAD""

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AaronS

Jun-10-13 3:46 PM

I guess I need to correct a few inaccuracies from md’s post.

First, I’m not a Republican. I’m a registered Independent and have been for about 10 years. Before that, I was a lifelong Democrat blue dog West Virginia Democrat. I believed in an honest day’s pay for a honest day’s work, a helping hand when needed and fairness for all. Like Ron Reagan and countless other West Virginians switching party affiliation, I firmly believe I didn’t leave the Democratic Party, they left me.

The best thing either party can do for the working man is stay the he** out of the way and let the economy work as it’s meant to. Like Hoover and FDR, Obama insist in interfering and all he’s doing is delaying the recovery. Had he followed in the footsteps of Coolidge we would have recovered by now. But I don’t expect you to know what Coolidge did the DNC doesn’t want that truth known.

I can’t help but note you avoided to address the Boeing fiasco.

…continued below…

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AaronS

Jun-10-13 3:55 PM

“But gimmicks do not override the President’s constitutional authority to make appointments to keep the government running.”

Sorry dude but they do. It’s been that way for years as Democrats used the same gimmicks to keep President Bush from making recess appointments. Had you read the Court of Appeals decision, you would know that.

“THIS WILL GO TO THE SCOTUS”

If it does, The Roberts Court will side with the Circuit Court of Appeals.

“I wonder where GM…”

Had they filed a traditional bankruptcy instead of the managed crap pushed through by Obammy, they would be much better off as they would have been able address what led to their financial crisis to begin with. As it is, they still have those very same problems and as a result, GM is looking at many of the same financial issues. 2 gold stars for you denver if you can tell us what those issues are. After that, explain to md how a union grievance procedure works. I’m not sure he understands.

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GPettit12

Jun-10-13 4:13 PM

Aaron It is no longer called GM, out here it is called Chinese Motors. Funny you mentioned Boeing, people are really hot at Bo for him siding with the Union to keep the Union plant in Washington from moving to South Carolina, to become a right to work state. Unions are not needed unless of course if the worker(s) are doing something that they should not be doing.

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Suttle

Jun-10-13 4:23 PM

This action against the appointees to the Labor Board only ensures that the American worker will continue to loose economic ground along with the economic policies that are corporate generated and promoted by the U.S. Chamber of Commerce and the Republican Party. Congress has not passed one bill that is helps the American worker. Congress has only proposed legislation that endangers health care, minimum wage, workers choice to form a union at the worksite and now Congress is endangering the worker's ability to earn overtime pay. The anti- worker/pro Wall Street agenda was clearly exposed during the Republican nominee' (Mitt Romney) presidential campaign.

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manydemocrats

Jun-10-13 4:53 PM

Aaron, your ignorance of the facts are obvious. Both Republican and Democratic presidents have been accused of abusing the recess appointment. George W. Bush made 171 recess appointments over the course of his two terms, while Bill Clinton used 139. Thus far, President Obama has made 32. The focus is specifically on recess appointments, a process that permits presidents the power to temporarily fill government positions when the Senate is not available to confirm presidential nominees. This entire REPUBLICAN FIASCO {OBSTRUCTION}may someday come back to bite them {THE REPUBLICANS} in the ***, if the SCOTUS rules with the circuit court of appeals....

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AaronS

Jun-10-13 8:41 PM

I'm not sure many how my own words could lead any reasonable person to arrive at the conclusion you did. I stated that I worded in a union environment. I was there for a couple of years after the incident I described, working for a short time as a union steward. In fact, many in the union wanted me to see higher office but I declined.

Shortly thereafter, I was injured and off work for an extended period of time. The union I had worked so hard to improve did nothing to ensure that I returned to work and in fact, when the company offered a settlement, the BA told me I should take the deal as it was the best one I was going to get and even though I could sue, in the end, I would be hurting my union brothers.

What I’ve found is that unions stick together when the cheese is plentiful but once the ship starts going down, like rats from a sinking ship…

Perhaps that’s why less than 1 in 10 private industry workers choose unions.

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AaronS

Jun-10-13 8:56 PM

If everything you say is true Suttle, why then is only 6.6% of private employees represented by a union?

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manydemocrats

Jun-10-13 9:33 PM

Aaron you claim below to have been working a "SHORT TIME" as a UNION STEWARD... By your statements on here, I AN THOROUGHLY CONVINCED {THAT IF TRUE}{WHICH I DOUBT} IT WAS A VERY, VERY, VERY, ""SHORT"" TIME. ON YOUR NEXT POST, I guess you will be telling us that you knew and was like good buddies with Walter Ruther. ""Sir, I knew WALTER RUTHER. AND YOU ARE ""NO"" WALTER RUTHER...""

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Suttle

Jun-10-13 10:31 PM

AaronS - Most union jobs (industries) have been shipped over seas, such as steel, ship building, glass making, chemical production and manufacturing. American corporations have lobbied successfully to make it economically attractive for industries that are traditionally union to leave our good old U.S. of A. via tax incentives. With our corporations moving overseas they save tremendously on taxes, salaries, retirement, health benefits and little or no regulation on building inspections or environmental safe guards that are usually found here at home. Also, the business lobby has successfully, through legislation, has made it very difficult for workers to form a union in the private sector through endless legal maneuvering on the part of the employer. Only Wall Street benefits from such policies. The worker becomes defenseless leaving little choice but to join the masses of the working poor. The future for the American worker is dim...Such a tragedy.

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AaronS

Jun-11-13 8:28 AM

" Also, the business lobby has successfully, through legislation, has made it very difficult for workers to form a union in the private sector through endless legal maneuvering on the part of the employer."

How so?

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