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Coalfields ExpresswayNew road will help residentsFebruary 15, 2013If it involves coal in any way, it must be bad, some radical environmentalists believe.... Showing 25 of 36 comments Show More Comments
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AaronS
"What similarities"
I'm not the least bit suprised that you don't know.
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denver
Google this, King Coal's Road to Nowhere: the Coalfields Expressway. Now who has a lack of knowledge? As for me slinking away, that ain't going to happen
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denver
What similarities
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AaronS
You’re showing your obliviousness denver. First, this is not an article about a road to nowhere. The opinion of the author is that the road would serve residents of the affected area positively. The comparison to Corridor G is relevant because of the similarities between the routes, the cost of construction and the local economics of the affected towns.
Second, this article is not about the King Coal Highway, it is about the Coalfields Expressway. Once again, your ignorance is on display for all to see. Honestly, as you have nothing to show but a lack of knowledge, I would think you would slink away and stop posting instead of continuing to display for all to see just how injudicious you truly are.
If you possessed any knowledge on the topic, you would be able to participate in an intelligent conversation. As it is, you don’t thus you can’t.
Sad.
Truly sad.
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denver
In case you didn't read the Article it was about Coalfields Expressway "King Coal's Road to Nowhere," not Corridor G!! nNow whose trying to "muddy the conversation with inane comments that add nothing to the discussion at hand"???
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denver
"honesty, honesty," Google "King Coal's Road to Nowhere,"
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AaronS
Denver isn't the only person scared of the truth as 3 people disagreed with my previous comment. It is that type of ignorance that keeps WV in such poor economic shape.
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WhatsNext
AaronS, don't be so hard on denver...that's just his style. Why screw up the conversation with facts? Too much kool-aid.
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AaronS
Come on denver, is that the best you've got. Can you not discuss the facts at all? What is your opinion on the economic impact of Corridor G and the Danville/Logan/Williamson area and do you not think the Mullins/Pineville/Welch area can benefit similarly? You have an opportunity to contribute in an intelligent manner to the conversation. Are you going to take it or are you going to continue to muddy the conversation with inane comments that add nothing to the discussion at hand?
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denver
You know over in Russia, and China, the strip mines are paid for by the government, and are exempt from all of the permitting requirements and other protections provided for communities and the environment by the Surface Mining Control and Reclamation Action. But both of them are communist countries too.
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AaronS
How about some facts denver? First, the state is not going mine coal. They will not subsidize mining any more than is already done. You should read the article. The state has agreed to allow companies to retain coal in exchange for preparing highway bed. That’s a good deal for WV taxpayers as the cost per mile for road construction is some of the highest in the nation. Why would you have a problem with that given the area that this road will open up?
How about some of the routes that this will open up? Currently, the trip from Beckley to Welch is about 60 miles but takes on average, 1.5 hours. While the 4 lane highway may not reduce the mileage, it will reduce the time to take the trip and improve fuel mileage for the vehicles that travel that area. The trip from Charleston to Logan is comparable but I’m sure you’re not familiar with Corridor G or any of the economic benefits of that road either.
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AaronS
Is there a reason denver you don't want to discuss the road?
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denver
and in all "honesty, honesty," given your previous comments, I must question whether you possess the intelligence needed for this discussion. Lol.
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denver
By the way "AaronS" Independents can vote in the Democratic primary in West Virginia too. I fixed that for "you," no charge.
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denver
"AaronS" I like to call them, Rush Limbaugh Democrats! Remember change you voter registration to "Democrat or Independent" so you can try an influence the outcome of the Democratic primary. Even the host of Talk Line, "Hoppy Kercheval" admitted he is a registered Democrat. And there most be 72,543 other ones!
Maybe If they Voted in their own primary's they wouldn't have the candidates that they have had lately! Just a thought!
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AaronS
"...to a stat that the DEMOCRATS that live there can't tell the difference between a presidential candidate and a convicted felon..."
You seem to forget Denver that the vote happened in the Primary election so it was Democrats who voted for a felon, not Republicans, Independents or other parties. I fixed that for you, no charge.
You are welcome.
As for you take on the coal field highways, if you can describe the current roads that in that area, how long it takes to get from one different towns , I might give you some credibility. Until then, me thinks you're talking out the wrong end of your body with a preconceived agenda as the motivating factor and in all honesty, honesty, given your previous comments, I must question whether you possess the intelligence needed for this discussion.
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denver
You're right "BOLO52" it's a "strip mine for coal, paid for with taxpayers money, not a "highway project" that's why its called "King Coal's Road to Nowhere!"
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denver
"BOLO52" what's that got to do with the "King Coal's Road to Nowhere,"
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denver
And "Infrastructure should be planned out to meet the demands 50 years in the future, not today." I'd say that a light rail high speed train would come closer to doing that, than "King Coal's Road to Nowhere," would. But that's just me!
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denver
As for the wasted stimulus money, "what do expect would happen when you give money to a state that the people that live there can't tell the difference between a presidential candidate and a convicted felon serving time in a Federal Penitentiary in Taxes?" The federal government should have told them what to spend it on. You know, their not smart enough to decide on their own.
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denver
How about the Coal Company's "King Coal." using eminent domain because they call it a "highway project" to relocate dozens of property owners while bypassing local business areas and "burying at least 12 miles of streams." And the only one that's going to benefit from it, is the coal company's, and we the tax payers will have to pay to keep it up?
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denver
"King Coal's Road to Nowhere,"
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AaronS
"This "highway " is nothing but a linear strip mine subsidized by our Tax dollars , and reduced regulations."
Even if that is the case, its money well spent to anyone who's traveled that area. If we're going to spend money it might as well be on something useful like a highway than wasted to reward campaign contributions as the Stimulus Bill was. Combined with the advancement of Route 74 and sections of the Coal Highway in WV, these 3 routes would open up southern WV tremendously more than it already is.
Infrastructure should be planned out to meet the demands 50 years in the future, not today. If we are to meet the future needs of our citizenry and open up southern WV, it will require investment in roads. If we can cut down cost by allowing coal to be mined on part of the route why would any reasonable person argue with that?
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neocurmudgeon74
judgeroy, the route of the Coalfields Expressway comes up better on Bing than on Google.
I found 2 maps, one for the WV portion & the other for the VA portion. The filter doesn't allow links, but the WV map link is easy enough to explain: 3w coalfieldsexpressway dot com slash route
Getting to the Virginia map is more difficult. Go to 3w virginiadot dot com, & search. (The 1st dot is for "department of transportation", the 2nd dot is the usual period.)
The alternatives & the status are confusing, & some of the material is years old. But I'm less confused now than I was yesterday. (Sam Black Church, Babcock State Park -- give me a break!)
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jpdevol
I shall take the other side gentlemen; the Coalfield Expressway is good for WV. The route runs southwest from Beckley to US460 near Grundy,VA , a rugged area with no modern highway access. We have US119 to the west to Logan and I77 to the east to Princeton, this road will fill the gap in between those two. It will serve the communities of Mullins, Pineville, Welch and others. Like all modern 4-lane roads, it will allow improved commerce and safety through easier and quicker travel.
Imagine our area without the modernization of I77 (old US21) to Charleston, US50 to Clarksburg and US33 to Athens. We would be stuck in the “dark ages” as are Welch and Mullens now. The two-lane travel in those areas is also far worse than was ours because of the severe topography – let them have the road.
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