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Coalfields Expressway

New road will help residents

February 15, 2013

If it involves coal in any way, it must be bad, some radical environmentalists believe....

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denver

Feb-15-13 6:01 AM

King Coal's latest scheme is to try and take $2 billion of federal funds, "our tax dollars" to build the Coalfields Expressway through southern West Virginia and Virginia. Its called "King Coal's Road to Nowhere," And it is mostly an empty area, and is shrinking in population. {And what tourism?} Nobody wants to see an area with nothing spectacular, destroyed by strip mining, full of poverty, and overrun with drugs. And it won't help out economically either. But it will boost the coal company's profits, for a few years, until they picked the area clean, all the while we need to pay money to support a road being destroyed by coal trucks, with little or no local traffic. Going to Nowhere!

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Hobiedan

Feb-15-13 7:58 AM

The Coal companies get the coal the road passes over, I bet they choose where that road does too. Smells like a hoodwinking to me. Good try Big Coal, not fooled.

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denver

Feb-15-13 12:12 PM

"BOLO52" we are talking about West Virginia, not China, I could care less about China! And I reckon you think its OK for them to spend $2 billion of federal funds "our tax dollars" to build a Road to Nowhere for Don Blankenship, and King Coal, that we will have pay to keep up. Does that sound like a good Idea to you?

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denver

Feb-15-13 12:14 PM

I wonder what are fine Congressmen David Mckinley, has to say about "King Coal's Road to Nowhere,"

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denver

Feb-15-13 12:54 PM

{our are fine Congressmen David Mckinley}

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neocurmudgeon74

Feb-15-13 1:40 PM

As usual, it's a matter of balance. Although that is seldom evident on this discussion board!

We would be foolish to not level anything. Older buildings, older roads, were adapted to the terrain, & often yielded less-than-optimal outcomes. Now that we have heavy machinery, we don't have to build houses in floodplains, or drive on roads laid out for horsedrawn wagons.

But we would be equally foolish to level everything w/o considering other options. We're listing to that side, I think.

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denver

Feb-15-13 2:13 PM

"BOLO52" you need to ask that question to Mike Myer he is the one that doesn't want to invest in the infrastructure of America unless it benefits Don Blankenship, and King Coal. And comparing Route 50 to "King Coal's Road to Nowhere," is kind of a stretch isn't it?

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judgeroywv

Feb-15-13 2:47 PM

LOL. Are they not talking about the area where US Rt 60 already runs? If so, then this is hilarious! That was the area that Interstate 64 was supposed to go through before the politicians in Charleston stuck their fingers in the pie. As far as tourism is concerned, you need to take a second look. That area has Babcock State Park (you know where that wonderful picture of the waterwheel and creek you see everywhere comes from), it also has some of the best fall foilage coming and going. The economic increase will also come from more mining jobs. The only bad thing about this is that it will basically shut down truck traffic from Beckley to Sam Black Church on I64 as truckers will much rather take that route than deal with that idiotically engineered mess that goes down into the New River Gorge.

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denver

Feb-15-13 3:00 PM

The controversial highway project would cut through southwestern Virginia, using eminent domain to relocate dozens of property owners while bypassing local business areas and burying at least 12 miles of streams.

Local residents assert that while the project is being billed as a highway project, in reality it's a taxpayer financed strip mine that is likely to be exempt from all of the permitting requirements and other protections provided for communities and the environment by the Surface Mining Control and Reclamation Action.

Do a little research their judge!

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denver

Feb-15-13 3:04 PM

And with the price of gas getting close to 4 dollar a gallon, we might want to rethink that light rail high speed train!

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Hobiedan

Feb-15-13 8:27 PM

I wonder how much Mike in Wheeling gets paid from the Coal Companies to champion their causes. Someone ought to look into it. This "highway " is nothing but a linear strip mine subsidized by our Tax dollars , and reduced regulations. Mike, you ought to be ashamed of yourself.

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jpdevol

Feb-16-13 10:41 AM

I shall take the other side gentlemen; the Coalfield Expressway is good for WV. The route runs southwest from Beckley to US460 near Grundy,VA , a rugged area with no modern highway access. We have US119 to the west to Logan and I77 to the east to Princeton, this road will fill the gap in between those two. It will serve the communities of Mullins, Pineville, Welch and others. Like all modern 4-lane roads, it will allow improved commerce and safety through easier and quicker travel.

Imagine our area without the modernization of I77 (old US21) to Charleston, US50 to Clarksburg and US33 to Athens. We would be stuck in the “dark ages” as are Welch and Mullens now. The two-lane travel in those areas is also far worse than was ours because of the severe topography – let them have the road.

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neocurmudgeon74

Feb-16-13 11:10 AM

judgeroy, the route of the Coalfields Expressway comes up better on Bing than on Google.

I found 2 maps, one for the WV portion & the other for the VA portion. The filter doesn't allow links, but the WV map link is easy enough to explain: 3w coalfieldsexpressway dot com slash route

Getting to the Virginia map is more difficult. Go to 3w virginiadot dot com, & search. (The 1st dot is for "department of transportation", the 2nd dot is the usual period.)

The alternatives & the status are confusing, & some of the material is years old. But I'm less confused now than I was yesterday. (Sam Black Church, Babcock State Park -- give me a break!)

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AaronS

Feb-17-13 4:30 PM

"This "highway " is nothing but a linear strip mine subsidized by our Tax dollars , and reduced regulations."

Even if that is the case, its money well spent to anyone who's traveled that area. If we're going to spend money it might as well be on something useful like a highway than wasted to reward campaign contributions as the Stimulus Bill was. Combined with the advancement of Route 74 and sections of the Coal Highway in WV, these 3 routes would open up southern WV tremendously more than it already is.

Infrastructure should be planned out to meet the demands 50 years in the future, not today. If we are to meet the future needs of our citizenry and open up southern WV, it will require investment in roads. If we can cut down cost by allowing coal to be mined on part of the route why would any reasonable person argue with that?

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denver

Feb-17-13 4:58 PM

"King Coal's Road to Nowhere,"

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denver

Feb-17-13 5:38 PM

How about the Coal Company's "King Coal." using eminent domain because they call it a "highway project" to relocate dozens of property owners while bypassing local business areas and "burying at least 12 miles of streams." And the only one that's going to benefit from it, is the coal company's, and we the tax payers will have to pay to keep it up?

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denver

Feb-17-13 6:09 PM

As for the wasted stimulus money, "what do expect would happen when you give money to a state that the people that live there can't tell the difference between a presidential candidate and a convicted felon serving time in a Federal Penitentiary in Taxes?" The federal government should have told them what to spend it on. You know, their not smart enough to decide on their own.

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denver

Feb-17-13 6:27 PM

And "Infrastructure should be planned out to meet the demands 50 years in the future, not today." I'd say that a light rail high speed train would come closer to doing that, than "King Coal's Road to Nowhere," would. But that's just me!

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denver

Feb-18-13 5:58 AM

"BOLO52" what's that got to do with the "King Coal's Road to Nowhere,"

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denver

Feb-18-13 9:00 AM

You're right "BOLO52" it's a "strip mine for coal, paid for with taxpayers money, not a "highway project" that's why its called "King Coal's Road to Nowhere!"

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AaronS

Feb-18-13 5:25 PM

"...to a stat that the DEMOCRATS that live there can't tell the difference between a presidential candidate and a convicted felon..."

You seem to forget Denver that the vote happened in the Primary election so it was Democrats who voted for a felon, not Republicans, Independents or other parties. I fixed that for you, no charge.

You are welcome.

As for you take on the coal field highways, if you can describe the current roads that in that area, how long it takes to get from one different towns , I might give you some credibility. Until then, me thinks you're talking out the wrong end of your body with a preconceived agenda as the motivating factor and in all honesty, honesty, given your previous comments, I must question whether you possess the intelligence needed for this discussion.

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denver

Feb-18-13 6:00 PM

"AaronS" I like to call them, Rush Limbaugh Democrats! Remember change you voter registration to "Democrat or Independent" so you can try an influence the outcome of the Democratic primary. Even the host of Talk Line, "Hoppy Kercheval" admitted he is a registered Democrat. And there most be 72,543 other ones!

Maybe If they Voted in their own primary's they wouldn't have the candidates that they have had lately! Just a thought!

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denver

Feb-18-13 6:06 PM

By the way "AaronS" Independents can vote in the Democratic primary in West Virginia too. I fixed that for "you," no charge.

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denver

Feb-18-13 6:09 PM

and in all "honesty, honesty," given your previous comments, I must question whether you possess the intelligence needed for this discussion. Lol.

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AaronS

Feb-18-13 9:20 PM

Is there a reason denver you don't want to discuss the road?

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