Local reaction mixed on Obama gun proposals

Right now, Obama is a criminals best friend. His idea of leaving Americans defenseless, since criminals don't care about gun laws anyway, will definitely garner him and his democratic party support in prison yards and gang hangouts nationwide.

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2 things. If you did truly rid the country of all guns, there is NO DOUBT gun violence would plummet. NO DOUBT ABOUT IT.

But that doesn't make it right. Even if the majority of Americans wanted strict gun control, that doesn't make it right.

The Constitution was written to protect individual liberties at all costs. The right to keep and bear arms is not written to maintain a tradition of hunting either. Not sure why Rockefeller always brings that up. It is for SELF DEFENSE, the constitution clearly indicates that.

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Hindsight101, you are an idiot for saying to burn the foundation this country is built on. Im guessing you are a tree hugging hippy throwback that has never done anything other than complain and stir crap. I have 24 years in the Army and am a combat vet of Iraq. I own several rifles that take extended mags. Wanna ask me if I know how to use them? The Military has died down through the years for that piece of paper you want to burn. So the next time you want to run your cake hole go down to the VA, VFW, or Legion and explain your plans to them and see what they say. I think you will find you are in the minority in this very patriotic area. The only reason the 2nd amendment is there is to insure the people have the ability to overthrow the Government, its not there for self defense or hunting. Its our ability to revolt just as Washington and his bunch did during a little something called the American Revolution.

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Goldandblue, you need to check the statistics. England has a much lower gun violence per 100,00 than the US but violent crime there is almost double what it is here. Im so tired of everyone using GUN VIOLENCE stats when its skewed. Look for violent crime...

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"I am STILL waiting for a reason someone needs an assault weapon with a thirty round clip."

To kill people. People who would choose to violate your rights. That's one of the reasons our founders insisted there be a right to bear arms. If you have five intruders (or a tyrannical government) all with folks who don't have to follow the laws because they ignore them or are above them, you may very well need a 30 round clip.

The problem is that some folks don't know their history, don't possess the facts they need to understand the matter, and just react because they have irrational fear of the very things that will keep them safe.

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"Exactly the reason the Constitution is OUTDATED and should be burnt."

Move somewhere more to your liking. Our founders looked everywhere else, saw huge flaws, and developed a government "of the people" that for the most part works when we don't have tyrants who wish to rule by fiat (Obama looks to be going that route). We left Europe to get away from an imperial government. Go back there if that's what you like.

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hindsight101 You said once you was in the Army 2 years,better start writing your record down.

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@stupendous....thats called murder and you go to PRISON with all the other TRASH."

Killing people who are posing a real threat to you isn't "murder" by any definition. Killing? Yes. Murder, no.

Our founding fathers killed lots of people to avoid a government like you seem to prefer. You can either learn from history, or keep yourself ignorant, ignore it, and suffer the same tyranny that those in the past wouldn't tolerate.

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Hindsight: The fact is that the majority of those who founded our nation had experience with leaders who bypassed the representatives of the people, and decided that they needed to ensure that they could arm themselves in order to kill those who seek to remove the freedoms God bestowed upon us.

Not just so we could hunt. Not just so we could practice target shooting. But so we could kill those who would harm us. This is true not because I am a criminal, but because this is what the founders wanted and how they set it up in the Constitution. If you don't like the Constitution you can fight to see it amended. Good luck with that.

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does a rifle's appearance make it an "assault" weapon? I have no desire to own one of these modern rifles. I prefer blued steel and walnut. If you want to know about "assault" weapons ask the secret service, fully automatic pistols (Uzi) protecting Obama and his daughters.

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Where to start? First things first, for those of you who think more laws will stop violence, you are kidding yourselves. Guns are here and criminals do not obey the law so more laws will solve absolutely nothing. Secondly, what I own is my business and noone elses. Just because some idiot decides to shoot someone with a pistol doesn't mean mine will shoot someone to. Just because they shoot someone with an AR-15 doesn't mean mine will point itself at someone and the trigger squeeze either. If you really believe enacting more laws will satisfy an issue when the current laws we have are being ignored, you need to reevaluate your priorities. Face it, guns are on the street and nothing you will do will eliminate that fact. Impose actual punishment to those who commit these heinous crimes and then you will garner some attention. If a person pulls the trigger and is witnessed in doing so, endorse a punishment so severe, the next person will think twice before trying something cont.

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also, are you guys against background checks for all gun sales? this is where you might lose moderate Americans... just sayin, people!

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of the same nature. America has a bad habit of knee-jerk reactions to calm the masses which do not actually solve anything.

Remember, why I own my guns is noone elses business but mine. Our government allows the ability to purchase them period. If you think some idiotic argument between political parties will solve something, you are dilusional.

Remember, guns don't kill people, the idiot who pulls the trigger does. We have thousands of children starving inside our own borders, we have thousands of elderly who need medical attention and you want our so-called leaders to waste valuable time wondering if I should be able to shoot a specific type of weapon. Don't you think they would have time better spent working on real issues like actually coming up with a national budget.

Lastly, your rights only go so far as to when they start impeding on mine. How am I today, Disturbed Again.

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I love how everyone is talking about fully automatic weapons. Fully automatic weapons are illegal to own in WV for you idiots who don't know. I inherited a large amount of guns with the passing of a family member, new and old rifles and pistols. No single person in this country needs to know why I own multiple assault rifle with enough ammo to last me for a good long while. None of the ones I own are full auto, which makes them perfectly legal to own in WV. This country is going to*****in a hand basket and the ones who can't see that have their head buried so far up Obama's @$$ they can't see daylight. I have the right to bear arms and anyone who tells me otherwise will be speaking directly into the business end of a KSG12. Take away people rights and I can guarantee this country will see another civil war. Don't give up your rights because of some incident that happened due to a nut job whose mommy didn't love him enough. "We The People" need to take back control of the go

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All of the comments are for and against, but only congress will make it a law. Little chance of that. They couldn't make up their minds when to go to lunch.

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i swear the real underlying cause for some of the logic spewed by far-right gun owners is that they honestly want some sort of dystopian, anarchy-filled world just so they can be sheriff of their own front porch answering to no authority.

there are responsible gun owners and there are crazy gun owners. guys spouting out a new revolution is coming really are not helping your defense. you sound absolutely nuts to middle America.

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I need a semi-automatic assault weapon with a thirty round clip because the federal government, which I have the constitutional right to defend the security of my free State against, has nuclear weapons.

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So sick of hearing about guns,guns,and guns...had to purge facebook

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When the Second Amendment was written, normal citizens had free access to the very same type of weaponry that was available to be used against them. They also had an abundance of violence. The difference between then and now; to me, boils down to two issues. Then they hanged people for their crime against society and now we put them up in living conditions better than many who work hard and obey the law. The second is people would rather blame the weapon instead of the lack of responsible adult behavior with the same instilled in our youth. The 2nd Amendment is fine as written. The consequences need to be severe and taken more seriously instead of being ignored. With that said; (cont’d)

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The President, Vice-President and everyone in congress has sworn to protect and defend the U.S. Constitution, when they took their oath of office. In participating in any manner to restrict our 2nd Amendment rights according to the U.S. Constitution, they are breaking their oath and should be immediately removed from the office they hold. If the media fame and easy prison life were not part of the result of such bad behavior as performed in these incidents that are transpiring at a higher rate than ever before; and people were put to death for such behavior, this problem would stop occurring at the rate it has lately. Bring back the death penalty on a federal level for these murderous crimes and watch it rectify itself.

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Hey stupendousman, or should it be ignoramousman? Nowhere in the Constitution does it say anything about "needing" something. I will use my old example: who needs a Corvette? They go fast and can kill people if in the wrong hands. Ergo, let's ban Corvettes! See how ridiculous your argument is. When people realize it's not the guns, but the people using them, then maybe we can make some sensible progress in this debate.

High capacity magazine bans are also industrial strength stupid. I dare you to break into my house. If I empty the seven shots in my first pistol, and need more, I'll empty the ten in the next pistol. If that isn't enough I'll empty the eight in my other pistol. If by then your butt isn't too full of lead to move, and you still want to come at me, I'll unload seven shots from each of my shotguns. See how stupid your argument is. All I have to say is "don't try it," and wake up and see the intrusion of the federal government in your life.

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An "assault weapon" ban is a joke and nothing more. The only thing military about an "assault weapon" is the way it looks. It is not a machine gun. I use qutation marks around the word because it is nothing more than a made up word used as a propoganda tool to get people to think a certain way about something that they do not understand.

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Oh, and by the way, don't get too riled up about the second amendment being completely taken away in one fell swoop. That would make it too easy for people to choose a course of action that they might not take otherwise. Remember the federal government is in this for the long haul. They will chip away at the second amendment rights of citizens over the course of several generations and have been since 1934. Step 1, The National Firearms Act of 1934 prevented citizens from owning fully automatic weapons. Step 2, The Federal Firearms Act of 1938 requires dealers to obtain an FFL. Step 3, The Gun Control Act of 1968 denies certain people from purchasing firearms from FFL dealers based on a background check.

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Step 4 is in three parts, The 1984 Armed Career Criminal Act, Firearms Owners Protection Act, and Law Enforcement Officers Protection Act effectively increases penalties imposed on those in violation of the 1968 Act, establishes mandatory penalties, and bans ownership of "cop killer" (armor piercing) ammunition which in itself severely hampers the ability of citizens to protect their free State from the federal government. Step 5, The Crime Control Act of 1990 banned the manufacture and importation of semi-automatic assault weapons and creating "gun free" school zones (except for the President's kids, then it is ok), this was a turning point for the federal government. Although it passed, it met stiff resisitence and was allowed to expire. This was the first major victory for United States citizens.

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Step 6, The Brady Handgun Violence Prevention Act of 1994 created the handgun five day waiting period. In 1997 The Supreme Court, in the case of Printz v. United States, declares the background check requirement of the Brady Handgun Violence Prevention Act unconstitutional and yet it is still performed to this day. Step 7, as of 1998 gun dealers are now required to initiate a pre-sale criminal background check of all gun buyers, not just handguns. Now, in 2012 more restrictions now in place by Executive Action and proposals have been sent to the legislature for action. It is a gradual and continuous process that exploits political opportunities to enact the next segment of restrictions.

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