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CCMC officials decide not to continue Heart Ball

January 10, 2013

PARKERSBURG — With a number of events converging at the same time, officials with the Camden Clark Medical Center have decided not to continue the St. Joseph’s Heart Ball....

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Hippie

Jan-17-13 10:50 AM

Well.. it did not paste. I will repost it so maybe the paper system will allow you to see what the website it. Hmmm.. is this some protection mode or something??

it is **** and then the two back slashes. Then the letters emtala then dot then com

LOL... what a joke to have to put it in this way... Anyway, go to that website and it will explain everything you want to know about ED and hosptial to hospital transfers. *******emtala****/

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Hippie

Jan-17-13 10:48 AM

NJ1234. Here is the link to the federal law that regulates ED transfers. It is called "EMTALA". Trust me, NO ONE is dumped or moved in violatio of this policy. If you knew the **** that comes with a EMTALA violation, you would understand why the ED is very carefult with EVERY tranfer. Enjoy the read. ***********emtala****/faq.htm

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hindsight

Jan-14-13 8:42 PM

MRWebster : I didnt mean they were denying treatment. They are sending patients to MMH rather than SJC as a means to cripple SJHC. Rather than move overflow there. It is saying " They have fewer patients CCMH can get you a spot at MMH with less waiting if you want to go there rather than wait 12 hours at CCMH. They could send them to SJC but they don't.

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Privatized

Jan-13-13 10:44 AM

They don't let a silly thing like Federal law stop them from scrimping on patient care or diagnosis.

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MrWebster

Jan-12-13 9:49 PM

The federal law regarding treatment of patients in hospitals that receive federal funding can be found at www dot emtala sot com It specifically states that no one can be refused treatment for any reason.

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MrWebster

Jan-12-13 9:44 PM

nj: transferring from one hospital to another for further care is a routine part of health care. It happens many times every day. Like I said, if a patient's PCP happens to practice at MMH, but the patient, do whatever reason, ends up in the ER at CCMH, when they are stable enough to be transported, they or their physician can request it. To imply that CCMH 'dumps' patients on MMH is false.

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hindsight

Jan-12-13 9:42 PM

Like I said my past early postings speak volumes for themselves.

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nj1234

Jan-12-13 12:26 PM

Mr Webster..Peerhaps you could give us a link showing the federal guidelines for transfers?? People are transferred all the time to the facility best able to handle their specific injury or illness, competititor or not.CCMH life flight people All over the place, including MMH, CAMC OUH,WVU etc.

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nj1234

Jan-12-13 12:16 PM

I know that if you are in St. Joe,you are at least 50%+ sure of getting either MRSA or Staph infection. All 4 of my relatives did.One ended up in Morgantown and fought 4 months for his life. On the other hand, CCMH jams 2 people into a room that is hardly big enough for one person. They don't care that your walker won't fit thru the bathroom door. This is from personal experience, not heresay.If you are old and on Medicare, or poor and on a medical card, you are sc rewed!Minimum care and they send you home after a few bags of saline w/antibiotics in the ER. I'm not sure CCMH is a "not for profit" anymore, since they made a deal with another hospital group not long ago. My last MRI (brain) was almost $3400.

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MrWebster

Jan-12-13 12:58 AM

Hindsight, I'm not sure who's feeding you info, but it's outright lies. CCMH has never diverted or transferred patients from SJ to MMH. MMH is a competitor and doing so violates federal regulations. The only time patients go from either CCMH or SJ to MMH is when patient's physicians order it. This usually happens when a physician has priveleges at MMH and not CCMC. Please get your facts straight before spreading misinformation.

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hindsight

Jan-11-13 4:28 PM

Bud I have my facts straight I have family at both campus' and some are high ranking. I have the real facts not some lie because obviously you are here to promote an agenda making CCMH look good rather than the facts. You might ask around these forums I have been here over 2 years posting facts early about the hospital and it has came out later as I said it was from the beginning.

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Hippie

Jan-11-13 8:21 AM

Hindsight.... CCMH never diverted to MMH when SJH was in existance unless SJ was overwhelmed and could not handle the load. Get your facts straight before you publish Bull.

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hindsight

Jan-10-13 11:14 PM

BTW they sent them from E.R being overflowed to MMH rather than SJC. So don't think it was for something closed.

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hindsight

Jan-10-13 11:12 PM

When CCMH has actually done things to purposely tank ST.JOESPH by sending E.R. patients to MMH rather than ST.JOE then that shows they are tanking ST.JOE on purpose. Believe what you want by just because I don't live in WV anymore don't mean my personal phone don't yet calls.

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ihatechristyfore

Jan-10-13 5:31 PM

St. Jo's was good for many, many things. Wonderful ER department, great outpatient services, handy doctor offices, outstanding staff, etc., but the rooms for patients were atrocious. Filthy. Inadequately heated or cooled (broken and outdated heating system) terrible parking, and overall outdated design. I hated to see it go because that was my community's hospital. I will try to like CC, but it will take awhile. They need to get rid of their C-Diff problem.

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Hippie

Jan-10-13 12:27 PM

Kids Mamma One thing that I think a lot of folks are not considering is that the public has only so much money to donate. If you have event after event after event, then the public becomes turned off and then all donations suffer. The only other thing that I can think to say is, and this is not meant as a mean comment, but times change. One business buys another every day, every day one hospital buys another. I am sure the intent is to always provide excellent care for all. However, "our" government has seen fit to cut reimbursements to facilities, demanded more of staff, given more benifits to those that don't work to earn them, etc. I think everyone would like to go back to 1960, when the docs went to your home for house calls, the nurses were not overwhelmed, costs were not so high, and I can even remember when "grandma" was admitted to let the family have some down time. Try that now!! No, times change, if you don't run a hospital as a business, then you repea

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Kidstermama

Jan-10-13 12:12 PM

I do agree that it was commendable for CCMH to buy St. Joseph's in a time when things looked poor for them. I believe that much could be done to help the image of CCMH and cutting these types if activities is just not good PR. I would disagree about the money going to equipment and such considering the things that I know some of the things money has been thrown at. All that aside, many in the community are not satisfied with their ED experience and the healthcare they receive at that facility and that is so sad. Canceling such public events only adds to the impression that CCMH does not want to promote positive community events and eliminate anything STJ.

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Hippie

Jan-10-13 10:54 AM

Well lets see, maybe CCMH should have just let SJ close, then where the heck would you be? Have any of you actually looked and seen the deplorable conditions that SJ hospital is in? Lets see, tiles coming off the floor, leaks from the roof, water leaks in the pipes, ceiling tile not replaced in decades. When you drive down 19th stree look at how SJ "fixed" the hole in the ceiling where delivery drivers use to park. Why do you insist that CCMH did all this wrong, when it was the previous owners, from HCA to the last one that took every penny from the facility and ran like rats on a sinking ship. SJ was a "for profit" hospital that did not put money back into the facility. CCMH is a not for profit, and the VAST majority of the money goes back into equipment and other needed things. When the sisters had the facility, it was clean, ran well, and for that time, state of the art. Once HCA got their 50% in the early 90's, then the sisters lost all control a few years late

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Kidstermama

Jan-10-13 8:15 AM

I believe it goes deeper than the St. Joseph's effect. CCMH has list touch with the community it serves. Almost "too big for their britches" so to say. The hospital needs to get back to brass tacks and figure out why the community is so negative about them and this is a prime example of how not to win popularity!

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MamaBear85

Jan-10-13 7:33 AM

That was always a great event for Parkersburg. But it seems that just as when St. Joe's was open, CCMH only cares about itself. CCMH never missed an opportunity to run down anything St. Joe did and now they get their wish. They can do away with all things St. Joe's. I assume no more Affair of the Heart event either?

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