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Flu reports spur influx at emergency rooms

January 10, 2013

PARKERSBURG— With an outbreak of the flu being reported throughout the area, the emergency departments at Camden Clark Medical Center have seen an influx of people over the past few days....

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AaronL

Jan-11-13 8:02 PM

@Hippie; mack76 resembles your remarks;BUT with her screwed up kids,"Has your back",to boot people out of triage because "HER" kids" take priority.There's no doubt you have seen alot of maladjusted thing in that ER,but that's becoming the norm,not the few due to the way things are written by the great"Lawmakers".You people have ALWAYS done a great job, whenever I was hauled in there,and I MEAN "hauled", it Takes falling out before I go.

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MrSmith

Jan-11-13 10:58 AM

To WallyinWV, the difference is that YOU are a responsible and moral human being, and realize that debts are things that need to be paid. You're not a "victim", whining and crying about the bad luck that you had regarding your job. You receive a service, and, as a man, you pay for that service.

Sadly, there are just so many "victims" who take no responsibility in providing for themselves or their families.

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MrSmith

Jan-11-13 10:54 AM

Lots of good points here. You know what they should do? How about keeping the St Joe's ER for those who do NOT have health insurance. That way, the constipation visits and Saturday Family Night at the ER would go to St Joe's, leaving the ER at CCMH for those of us with jobs and health insurance.

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MrSmith

Jan-11-13 10:49 AM

Excellent points made by "Hippie". Excellent reasoning to support the commentary, as well. Good job! You must be new to the area. :)

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Hippie

Jan-11-13 8:24 AM

Lawmakers need to sit down and think about the laws they pass. Allowing welfare people to come to the ED at no cost is an insult to working people. If they can buy beer, smokes, junk food, ice cream, pop, then they can afford SOMETHING for their own care. Its like the uproar when the working class wanted those receiving welfare to be drug tested. Oh Lord, that violates THEIR rights, but "I" have to be drug tested to get my job, and am subject to unannounced durg tests anytime. So Why do I have to be clean and sober to pay my taxes buy you can be a crackhead with 10 kids to receive my taxes that "I" worked for??? I just don't get it.

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Mack76

Jan-10-13 2:38 PM

Nothing wrong with a little dialogue between people! I enjoy it myself. :)

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WALLYinWV

Jan-10-13 2:17 PM

Mack....I'm really not curious, just trying to make folks grin. Fact is, I'm 59 years old, been married to the same woman for 38 years, father of three daughters (2 PA's and a banker), and like to get on here once in a while and discuss what's going on in the world with other folks who like to do the same. I do enjoy a good argument! Sometimes though, I have to stir the pot a little to get one going. Some would call me a s*** stirrer, I guess.

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Mack76

Jan-10-13 1:48 PM

They can apply to have their services written off as charity due to indigent status. Took me quite a while to pay off my bill from my emergency appendectomy way back when, and I had two kids then. Still paid it, and that hurt worse than the ailment...lol

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WALLYinWV

Jan-10-13 1:37 PM

I was without insurance for a while when I was between jobs. During that time I had to make a trip to the ER. I was billed for the treatment and I'm still paying for it in monthly payments. My question is this.....How do these people go to the ER and not get billed or charged for the service? What did I do wrong?

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Mack76

Jan-10-13 1:26 PM

Oh, and jbennett, I'm already well aware of what I'm mandated to do considering I work in social services. I'm fully aware that I cannot pick and choose who gets service and who does not. It will not, however, stop me from vocalizing about the cracks in our system that cause people like me to divert my attention from the ones who actually "need" to the ones who just leech. Just saying.

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Mack76

Jan-10-13 1:23 PM

And Privatized, you're absolutely right. CCMC (then CCMH) was quite instrumental in helping my stepgrandmother meet her demise back in the 90's due to negligent care. My stepmother is STILL good and ticked about that one.

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Mack76

Jan-10-13 1:22 PM

Uh oh... PN&S doesn't like the acronym L M A O. Duly noted.

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Mack76

Jan-10-13 1:21 PM

****@Wally!! It's a nickname I got as a kid, but then, I'm the child of sailors. As for your other questions, I will echo what I saw someone say to you yesterday in that, Wow Wally, you sure are a curious guy! Hahaha! For the record, yes, my man is older. ;)

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WALLYinWV

Jan-10-13 12:45 PM

Gee Mack, I didn't know you were a female. I thought, going by your screen name, that you were a guy. By the way, how old are you, what color are your eyes, and do you like older men??? (just kidding, lol)

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Hippie

Jan-10-13 12:33 PM

jbennett. I firmly believe that as Bob Dylan said in his song, "the times, they are a-changing".

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Privatized

Jan-10-13 12:31 PM

Wow Brooks, I hadn't read your post about the advocate before I posted mine. Not surprised though, many people realize this now.

We can blame the hospital as much as those abusing the ER. They aren't going to turn down $500-1000, for taking your temp and feeding you a Tylenol, even if that dollar figure is in the form of a write-off.

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Privatized

Jan-10-13 12:26 PM

Well Mack76, you're lucky they were able to figure out it was a ruptured appendix and didn't tell you it was an ulcer and send you home with Zantac. Then you could have had two emergency surgeries removing a large part of your insides, spent two weeks in the ICU as the nurses on duty kept you awake all night shuffling and playing cards, and injecting the wrong drugs that turn into glue in your IV.

You know it's bad when you need a medically trained advocate to stay with you in the hospital to make sure you come out alive.

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jbennett

Jan-10-13 12:25 PM

To Mack and Hippie, You need to wake up to the fact that the "stupids" as you call them will always be there and you will be mandated by law to serve them and their needs, like it or not. It' time to ramp up our hospitals to serve the public needs and spend some of those government dollars they so eagerly accept to pay their bonases each year. I am from a larger city that has 6 hospitals and not one has over a 4 hour wait at any time night or day in their ED. I was sent into this area to work, and you are right I am not a happy camper with the services provided by the local hospitals and it's not the personel that work there. They are great.

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MadAsHeck

Jan-10-13 12:08 PM

Welcome to the new normal for the US economy. People can't afford a doctor, so they go to the ER for everything, because the ER by law has to treat them. The working producers in the economy footing the bill yet again.

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Mack76

Jan-10-13 12:04 PM

Amen to that, Brooks. Hope your fiance is doing much better. You are right on with your analysis of the overworked competent staff who are doing their best to juggle all of their demands while certain unqualified staff fill in the cracks. I and my children have been inpatient there several times over the course of the last five years, and I wasn't ever wholly impressed by the overall care. Certain staff members really amazed me with their commitment to the patient care, while others stunned me with their lack of compassion, education, and skill.

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Brooks

Jan-10-13 11:53 AM

The whole 'do more with less' metality is thanks to the recession and greedy Corporations working people to the max to make up for the positions they chose to 'do away with' to cut costs. The increase in 'right to work' states will only see this trend expand. The fact that Hospitals have been doing it for years is a sin. My fiance spent 47 days in CCMH a decade or more ago...they almost killed him twice..the level of incompetance (hiring young dumb aides) was unreal, and the overwork of the competant and compassionate staff was evident then. I don't expect it has gotten any better. I learned a valuable lesson during that time. If you are extremely ill and need hospitalization, make sure you have an advocate watching out for you...if you don't and aren't well enough to pay attention to what is going on around you...God help you.

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Mack76

Jan-10-13 11:17 AM

Hippie, I wasn't aware that the LPN change was due to policy revisions at the federal level, but I do know that there were changes already being implemented because of the "do more with less" trend that has been seen overwhelmingly across the healthcare board.

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Mack76

Jan-10-13 11:15 AM

Brooks, I understand where you're coming from, and I agree that the area definitely needs more than just CCMC to fulfill its hospital and emergency care needs. I was also sickened by the closing of St. Joe's. As for LPNs, it is now a nationwide trend that this position be phased out because all hospitals want to do more with less. This means more demands being placed on CNAs and RNs, with no need for LPNs. The patient is ultimately the one who suffers, and that is truly shameful. I work in social services for an agency that subsidizes childcare services and have several clients that have already finished or are finishing LPN school just to find that they can't even find a job as one. The best position they can hope for is CNA or a Patient Care Tech, which is NOT what they busted their rears going to school for. Hippie is right in that a facility can't staff for stupid people with petty issues going to the ER for things they darn sure know they shouldn't be.

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Hippie

Jan-10-13 11:09 AM

Mack. LPN positions were not useful in many respects (not all) because the federal government have forced made so many assessment, charting, and medication responsibilities at the RN level. MANY hospital in the nation are going to all RN. It isn't a CCMH or SJH thing, it is the changes in the system. Do I agree, well I don't write policies at the federal level. I don't have a clue about any cut in pay for SJ staff, none that I know of (and I know many) ever said that to me. I think (and you know what they say about opinions), if the ED was not overrun by "stupid", it would work fine. You can't afford to staff for "stupid", you have to staff for needs (again, my opinion). I think in five or six years, when there are modern expanded services in the valley, everyone will say "why couldn't it have happened sooner". But for a third time, just my opinion. I gotta get to Charleston... Have a good day!

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Hippie

Jan-10-13 11:03 AM

Here is one for you Mack76. One night in the ED about five years ago, a "mother" (and I use that term lightly) brought her whole set of kids, four I believe into the ED. Said one was sick but since she was here, can you just look at all of them... WOW! That is just the tip of the iceberg. "my tooth hurts", "I may be pregnant", "I don't have any pills", "I have a fever of 99.2", or my two all time favorites, both welfare. One, lady had a pimple on her arm (not kidding), she came to the ED for a pimple. Second, the "boyfriend" had a drip from his lower parts so he wanted to be checked for STD, then his girlfriend decided to be checked too. Again, not kidding, tie up two ED beds for STD??? Our lawmakers allowed this to happen when they decided that these people don't have to pay any co-pay like working people do. I would guess, and this is a guess but I am sure I am fairly close, 80% of the visits in the ED could be seen in ur

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